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#921040 24-Oct-2013 14:39

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deadlyllama: If you want something a bit more DIY, I use backupsy.com. Essentially you get a VPS you can install your own OS, backup software, etc onto, and if you wait until they next offer a deal on lowendbox.com, you can pick up 500GB backup storage for 7USD/mo.

I run linux and Bittorrent Sync on mine and put Bittorrent Sync on various family members' computers. Much cheaper than 5USD per PC. Even my mother in law's photos are backed up now!

Looks like they have a 40% off for life coupon on their website right now.

When they have one of these specials, it's even cheaper: http://lowendbox.com/blog/cloudive-7month-2gb-ram-ssd-kvm-backupsy-7month-500gb-kvm-vps/

EDIT: looks like that SMOKING discount code is still valid.

If you pay them USD2/mo more, they will let you host non-backup stuff on the VPS, too.

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#921043 24-Oct-2013 14:46

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chevrolux: AWS S3

Set up on the Sydney gear and speeds should be pretty nice over a fibre connection. If you are deadly serious you can even look at getting direct connections from Vocus or through a AWS Connect service.

We do off-site backups to AWS S3 as well. Glacier archiving (cheap as chips) now being available in Sydney is a win. The speeds we achieve are very similar to uploading/downloading from a server locally hosted in NZ.

Is that simply copying files there or are there any backup application smarts going on as its two very different things.

Software that automates it. In a very similar way to how time capsule works.

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#921446 25-Oct-2013 10:15

Hi Everyone

Thanks for your replies. I do realise that if I upload 100GB and have a disaster that I will need to download it all however thats what a backup is.

The server I am wanting to backup is backed to another local machine however as its financial data it needs to be kept offsite as well.

Re keepitsafe will look into them however don't see why they put a "pricing" page that just has their contact details but I guess thats me being picky.

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#921529 25-Oct-2013 11:15

I use AWS S3 to store all of my personal backups, and age the backups to AWS Glacier after a month for archival storage (working on the theory that 99% of restores are from a backup less than a month old).
Works out incredibly cheap, and the 11 9's of durability on both the S3 and Glacier platforms is something I have not see elsewhere.

How do I get the data to S3? Simple S3 sync script running as a scheduled task => http://sprightlysoft.com/S3Sync/

If you are looking at something industry standard, then Netbackup, and Commvault have native S3 support.

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#939568 23-Nov-2013 17:39

Two other suggestions:

1 - logmein offer a cloud based backup, peer to peer on your own Pcs / servers. That means you can have your backup on any other PC in NZ adn with the low cost of larger data plans now it makes sense.

Any service you use - if you are backing up MS SQL and Exchange, not just files, then it needs to handle volume shadow protect and other products to make sure your backups for the above work properly and are not corrupted half way through. Nexus data does that well.

Another home option - Cobian Backup, uses volume shadow protect and can run to an FTP or similar server which you can run from home or other building.

Having your own server allows you to physically sneaker net data around as you want to.

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#939570 23-Nov-2013 17:41

FYI - We use MailStore Professional for mail backup and disaster recovery and logmein Backup for other files. SQl DB is backed up using a daily data dump to a backup folder. A fibre connection (was ADSL before ) with 150GB data and dooing it at night has worked beautifully.

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#939578 23-Nov-2013 18:01

I vote for Crashplan. We have the Geekzone VMs all backed up to Crashplan. I also use at home (a mix of Windows and OS X machines).

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#939708 24-Nov-2013 00:03

freitasm: I vote for Crashplan. We have the Geekzone VMs all backed up to Crashplan. I also use at home (a mix of Windows and OS X machines).

have you checked out the new azure backup offering "hyper-v recovery manager" that has just gone GA? you can continuously replicate virtual machines to azure for a fixed $/vm/month charge, and if your primary site goes down then you can stand up the VM in the azure cloud. http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/services/recovery-manager/

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#939990 24-Nov-2013 20:45

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freitasm: I vote for Crashplan. We have the Geekzone VMs all backed up to Crashplan. I also use at home (a mix of Windows and OS X machines).

have you checked out the new azure backup offering "hyper-v recovery manager" that has just gone GA? you can continuously replicate virtual machines to azure for a fixed $/vm/month charge, and if your primary site goes down then you can stand up the VM in the azure cloud. http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/services/recovery-manager/

Funny... I remember asking Nathan how long it would take Microsoft to start offering this service over Azure during one of the 2012 intro seminars. It really is a great feature of Hyper-V. Just wish vmware had something similar (native).

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#940020 24-Nov-2013 22:14

onebytemike: ......Just wish vmware had something similar (native).

When it gets more polished VMware will probably start thinking about price cuts to SRM. Of course Veeam also does an OK job of it.

IMO its better to build the application with component or site failure in mind from the start than to rely on replication. Having said that its good MS is keeping VMware honest at the hypervisor level, complacency is creeping in, far too many bugs since v5.0

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#940025 24-Nov-2013 22:45

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onebytemike: ......Just wish vmware had something similar (native).

IMO its better to build the application with component or site failure in mind from the start than to rely on replication.

component/site failure only goes so far in a fire, or natural disaster - replication gives you some peace of mind with an offsite solution. If you're a small business, which are increasingly using hyper-v, then its a pretty good feature to have bundled given the typical lack of storage/hardware/network redundancy in these organisations. I think UFB and VDSL connectivity will really see these sort of solutions start to take off (assuming web can get SMBs to ditch their $60/mth 'mission critical' adsl internet connections...)

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#940191 25-Nov-2013 11:30

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onebytemike: ......Just wish vmware had something similar (native).

When it gets more polished VMware will probably start thinking about price cuts to SRM. Of course Veeam also does an OK job of it.

IMO its better to build the application with component or site failure in mind from the start than to rely on replication. Having said that its good MS is keeping VMware honest at the hypervisor level, complacency is creeping in, far too many bugs since v5.0

Sometimes it just not possible to build into the app. Can also cost a lot more in many instances. The thing I like about the vm replication in hyper-v was the simplicity of it - sure it's not a backup but from a DR perspective, provided you've got your network sorted, it's a 2min recovery.

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#940635 25-Nov-2013 20:30

freitasm: I vote for Crashplan. We have the Geekzone VMs all backed up to Crashplan. I also use at home (a mix of Windows and OS X machines).

Have you tried acronis software at all? Expensive at some levels, cheap at tohers, with a replicated baremetal backup that is hoste on the web and can be run up as a DR system.

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