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irongarment
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  #2134372 26-Nov-2018 12:36
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MikeAqua:

irongarment:

I also don't understand what you mean by "less convenient", and how Linux represents a classic example.



It's harder to use, therefore less convenient.


It's harder for you to use, therefore less convenient for you. Got it.

I don't think it's that hard. Once you click on the Firefox icon you'll be able to access Facebook just like on Windows.



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  #2134373 26-Nov-2018 12:37
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Copyright is the topic.





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  #2134390 26-Nov-2018 12:49
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MikeAqua:

The importance of copyright (n other IP protection) IMO is that it creates a commercial incentive to create.


There can be other incentives for creating that don't require copyright in which case copyright can be relinquished.  If your objective is to share an idea as widely as possible, then you might choose to relinquish copyright.


Open source is great, but it can be inaccessible to many people, because it requires technical skills to work with.  Most people aren't programmers and don't want to learn to be.  They just want stuff that works out of the box.


An example is R.  Among other uses, you can graph things in R and undertake sophisticated statistical analysis.  It's much more powerful than excel if you can write code.  However ..... many, many, many people pay to use excel for graphing and basic statistical analysis while a much smaller number of people use R which is free


Why? Because excel works for >90% of use and the coding has been done, so you don't have to write or find code for a simple bar-graph.  That ease of use exists because someone was able to get paid for it.  They were able to get paid because they were able to protect their work both technically and legally.


 


 


 



You may want to look at the EU proposal around the copyright changes to the digital single market.

One of the changes is around data mining (I briefly alluded to this in my earlier post).

With copyright one doesn’t need to relinquish things - one grants people the right to do things.

One thing I notice often is people dont really know how to use or work with copyright (and I guess IP) so it goes into the too-hard basket.

I understand what you are saying about ease of use. However, from a usability point of view, I would refer to this as “Cognetive Loading” - something is easy when one doesn’t have to think hard about it.




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  #2134405 26-Nov-2018 13:08
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irongarment:

No. Your simple example was making a bar graph. That's trivial for LibreOffice or Google sheets. You don't get to make things more complicated and then claim that open source software doesn't cut it.

 

No. My simple example was comparing R with Excel.

 

 





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  #2134418 26-Nov-2018 13:20
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TwoSeven:

You may want to look at the EU proposal around the copyright changes to the digital single market.

One of the changes is around data mining (I briefly alluded to this in my earlier post).

With copyright one doesn’t need to relinquish things - one grants people the right to do things.

One thing I notice often is people dont really know how to use or work with copyright (and I guess IP) so it goes into the too-hard basket.

I understand what you are saying about ease of use. However, from a usability point of view, I would refer to this as “Cognetive Loading” - something is easy when one doesn’t have to think hard about it.

 

Fortunately I don't do any business via the EU these days.  I put Europe in the too far, too hard, avoid basket a few years ago.

 

You're right I should have said licence not relinquish.  Or you could simply not enforce your copyright.  I'm not sure if anyone can formally relinquish their copyright.

 

Cognitive loading is good term. But it's also simplicity, convenience and time.

 

On my computer I have two pieces of photograph editing software. 

 

One is very large and open source.  It's powerful but quite clunky to use.  If I was a specialist the open source software would be my go to photo editor and it would be second nature.  As an occasional dabbler it's difficult. 

 

The other photo software is a proprietary app.  It's simple and 90% of the time it's ideal.





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Here you go. Our learned friends across the ditch have come up with a sensible copyright regime that both protects content producers and allows consumers the freedom they need:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/02/village-roadshow-donates-millions-to-major-parties-while-lobbying-on-piracy

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  #2138996 4-Dec-2018 09:05
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ROFL




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