How easy is it to switch from iPhone to Android

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#2625710 23-Dec-2020 08:50

lxsw20:
Why do they need a current year iPhone? The SE is perfect for this scenario. Throw away a phone after 1 year? Talk about unsustainable.

I think the point was that to get a current version phone, the purchase cost proposition with an Android is far superior, by a magnitude that you could buy the latest phone every year.

Apple of course have a better resale value so that's also worth considering if looking at whole of life value.

Buying the latest model, assuming you will be keeping the device for a few years, is usually recommended as it will have a longer life span. Buying an older, near obsolete model means it's more likely to need upgrading sooner. But it depends on the end user, and what they use their device for.

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#2625758 23-Dec-2020 10:23

Agree with not buying an obsolete phone, but remember here the SE has the same processor as a 11 Pro. Its got probably 4-5 years before it's obsolete. It was only released in April.

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#2625775 23-Dec-2020 11:04

Compared to iphones....

The Android system is a dogs bollocks of a mess.
Many manufactures dont give a rats arse after the sell you the phone .

Phone manufacturers bastardizing the Android OS
God knows whats preloaded & uninstallable . Usually crap no one wants. Even malware on some Chinese brand phones if bought online.

Android Updates : if you're lucky. For as long as the ph manufacturers can be bothered , many never get updated to newer android versions.
Security patches : dont hold your breath, some phones NEVER get patched . Some only for a year or so .
Telco bastardized Android : so can only get the updates or security patches if & when the Telco can be bothered (often a long wait)

At least with an iphone, you know what youre getting , its the same the same the same . And not the same issues with Android updates & patches .

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#2625841 23-Dec-2020 11:27

For around $850 you can purchase the S20 FE. A phone that destroys the 2020 SE in every way. Samsung is also offering three years of Android updates now. Android phones are much better bang for the buck.

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#2625851 23-Dec-2020 11:40

1101:

Compared to iphones....

The Android system is a dogs bollocks of a mess.
Many manufactures dont give a rats arse after the sell you the phone .

Phone manufacturers bastardizing the Android OS
God knows whats preloaded & uninstallable . Usually crap no one wants. Even malware on some Chinese brand phones if bought online.

Android Updates : if you're lucky. For as long as the ph manufacturers can be bothered , many never get updated to newer android versions.
Security patches : dont hold your breath, some phones NEVER get patched . Some only for a year or so .
Telco bastardized Android : so can only get the updates or security patches if & when the Telco can be bothered (often a long wait)

At least with an iphone, you know what youre getting , its the same the same the same . And not the same issues with Android updates & patches .

Wow, that was a bunch of over-the-top generalisations all rolled into a single post!

I have never experienced anything like as bad as what you describe with any of my handsets over the years, from the low end through to flagship.

Sure, I get Apple fanbois can be somewhat protective (as can some in the Android camp), but what you appear to be describing is the real lower end of the Android market (and perhaps something that was more common in years past), and besmirching all handsets on that basis - not particularly helpful guidance IYAM.

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#2625855 23-Dec-2020 11:51

jonathan18:

Wow, that was a bunch of over-the-top generalisations all rolled into a single post!

I have never experienced anything like as bad as what you describe with any of my handsets over the years, from the low end through to flagship.

Sure, I get Apple fanbois can be somewhat protective (as can some in the Android camp), but what you appear to be describing is the real lower end of the Android market (and perhaps something that was more common in years past), and besmirching all handsets on that basis - not particularly helpful guidance IYAM.

Agree with you there @jonathan18. There's definitely some broad broad brush strokes being applied there and sounds more like a rant from an over protective fan-boi than anything helpful.

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#2625865 23-Dec-2020 11:54

I still wouldn't go near an iPhone. Way too overpriced for what you get. Plus, no FM radio - something I use on a daily basis.

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#2625873 23-Dec-2020 12:11

What Android phones from 2016 are still getting software updates?

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#2625972 23-Dec-2020 17:17

jonathan18:

Wow, that was a bunch of over-the-top generalisations all rolled into a single post!

Well yes, but an underlying truth there as well. It is generally recognised that buy a cheap phone, don't count on updates. Phones are still available that are no longer being updated, 40% of Android phones in use are on v6 or less - e.g. scroll down to 'Notes to editors' here.

One of my bugbears is OS and security updates as I have discussed before. Although the manufacturer may update the OS, that does not mean that the NZ telcos pass that update on. At times I have really been tempted to move to the iPhone - and only for this reason.

It would be really nice if someone could develop a NZ database of how long phones are supported and how long after Google, then the manufacturer issues a security/OS update before it is pushed to NZ phones.

My last few phones:

2102 Dec. Samsung Galaxy S3. Early 2014 was last update from Samsung to v4.3. Ran out of steam. Bought from NZ mainstream stock. (It is actually in the draw loaded with Android v7.1 courtesy of LineageOS.)
2015 Aug. LG G4. Excellent phone, but the NZ telcos stopped issuing OS & security updates in March 2016. Really? It was only released in March 2015! LG continued with updates for some time after this, but they were not pushed to NZ. Bought from NZ mainstream stock.
2017 Aug. OnePlus 5. Excellent phone, still in use, just ordered a new battery. OS has gone from V7 to V10. No more OS updates. Supposed to get security updates for 2 more years, but time will tell as security updates getting less frequent (currently on Sept 20). Not sure about the current OnePlus ethos or whether I would buy again. PB Tech import, no telco support in NZ.

The reason I went to OnePlus was to get over the issue of telcos not or belatedly issuing updates, my updates come direct from OnePlus. Others are Google Pixel and Nokia(?). There are articles showing how the different phone OS are updated, but ignore them, they do not apply to NZ because of the telco issue.

Moral is - do your research, make your choice.

Nokia 6110, 6210, 6234, Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1, Huawei Ideos X5 (Windows Mobile), Samsung Galaxy SIII, LG G4, OnePlus 5, iPhone Xs Max (briefly), S21 Ultra. And I thought I hadn't had many phones - but the first one around 1997.

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#2625983 23-Dec-2020 18:10

lxsw20:

What Android phones from 2016 are still getting software updates?

irrelevant, iphones from 2016 may be updated, but they are crap hardware now, if you are an iphone user, you probably have a newer iphone, just like a android user will probabaly have a phone newer than 2016.

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#2626000 23-Dec-2020 18:26

sdavisnz:
lxsw20:

What Android phones from 2016 are still getting software updates?

irrelevant, iphones from 2016 may be updated, but they are crap hardware now, if you are an iphone user, you probably have a newer iphone, just like a android user will probabaly have a phone newer than 2016.

stop being a sheep.

Calling someone a sheep is totally uncalled for. Why can't you just discuss the topic without calling someone names?

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#2626004 23-Dec-2020 18:34

Incidentally the most commonly used iPhone for web searches is the iPhone 7 which was released in 2016. That seems quite relevant to me.

https://deviceatlas.com/blog/most-popular-iphones

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#2626005 23-Dec-2020 18:50

1101:

Compared to iphones....

The Android system is a dogs bollocks of a mess.
Many manufactures dont give a rats arse after the sell you the phone .

Phone manufacturers bastardizing the Android OS
God knows whats preloaded & uninstallable . Usually crap no one wants. Even malware on some Chinese brand phones if bought online.

Android Updates : if you're lucky. For as long as the ph manufacturers can be bothered , many never get updated to newer android versions.
Security patches : dont hold your breath, some phones NEVER get patched . Some only for a year or so .
Telco bastardized Android : so can only get the updates or security patches if & when the Telco can be bothered (often a long wait)

At least with an iphone, you know what youre getting , its the same the same the same . And not the same issues with Android updates & patches .

I'm following this thread due to wanting to do the same myself to replace my very well used iphone 5c. I've only kept such an old phone due to being supplied a current model iPhone for work but have kept the old 5c to keep work calls and messages separate.

I've been eyeing up Nokia's offerings but keep making comparisons to an iPhone with features like decent stereo sound. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that it's possible to have Apple music on Android. Something to watch out for is that although with Android you can install apps to the SD card, this isn't always the case nor as reliable and you're outta luck if you cheaped out with a phone with only 16gig of internal storage. 16 gig will not allow you to install anything other than a couple of apps considering the OS takes up most of it. So many other silly things like editing a photo and finding it gets saved to the internal memory instead of the SD card

One thing that irks me with Android is when you google an issue and the instructions to fix are outdated or don't apply due to there being so many different versions and appearances. It makes assisting people over the phone with Android devices so very painful unlike iOS where you can do google image searches to provide instructions.

The worst thing of all however has to be the ease of which malware can land on an Android phone. Whereas at least when you're buying an iPhone you can tell the pimply sales guy trying to push antivirus onto the sale to right royally f off.

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#2626008 23-Dec-2020 18:53

sdavisnz:

lxsw20:

What Android phones from 2016 are still getting software updates?

irrelevant, iphones from 2016 may be updated, but they are crap hardware now, if you are an iphone user, you probably have a newer iphone, just like a android user will probabaly have a phone newer than 2016.

stop being a sheep.

Wow both of these comments are silly. Yes Apple does support their devices for longer but that doesn't generally mean the hardware is just "crap". Not everyone has a newer iPhone and not everyone has a newer Android phone. I think the best thing for anyone to do is to keep their phone until software support stops completely or the phone dies before that(warranty it at that point!).

Updates matter yes. Security updates even more. but as stated in another post Project Mainline is a thing now and now we're getting at least 3 years of updates from certain phone manufactures.

The iPhone 6 IS technically discounted so by my logic I would upgrade. However. The iPhone SE 2020 isn't an exciting or game changer phone. Yes it's a "budget" iPhone but it's not a great phone overall.

Maybe you can try and find a cheaper iPhone 11 that's new and on clearance and have a bigger battery and a better experience overall(Face ID is amazing but maybe not in a pandemic) and a new phone that will at least give you another 3-4 years like your 6 did.

If you REALLY wanted to go Android. Samsung A71, Oneplus Nord(research before you buy if you care about VoLTE and 5G), Oppo Find X2 Lite or the Xiaomi M10 Pro 5G(again research if you care about VoLTE and 5G)

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#2626108 23-Dec-2020 22:15

sdavisnz:

lxsw20:

What Android phones from 2016 are still getting software updates?

irrelevant, iphones from 2016 may be updated, but they are crap hardware now, if you are an iphone user, you probably have a newer iphone, just like a android user will probabaly have a phone newer than 2016.

stop being a sheep.

Different strokes for different folks. What you call crap hardware is more than suitable for many people. Not everyone cares about OLED display or the latest camera. They just want a reliable phone thats going to last.

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