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billgates
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  #434509 2-Feb-2011 21:23
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It will be very interesting to see the results at end of Q4 2011. Previously iPhone was only available on the AT&T network where as Android was available on all major US networks. For CDMA customers in US, the only choice available was Android. Now that iPhone is available on Verizon which is the biggest network there and also available on the 2nd biggest network in US which is AT&T, customers will have the iPhone as an option. Not to mention that Windows Phone 7 will also launch on first half of 2011 on both Verizon and Sprint. Web OS will also hopefully gain some traction with their GSM release worldwide.

So you will have WP7 and Android on all major US networks. iPhone on AT&T and Verizon which are the biggest mobile network providers in US and webOS hopefully on atleast 3 major US networks as well.

Competition has just started this year IMHO.




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  #434641 3-Feb-2011 08:40
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billgates: It will be very interesting to see the results at end of Q4 2011. Previously iPhone was only available on the AT&T network where as Android was available on all major US networks. For CDMA customers in US, the only choice available was Android. Now that iPhone is available on Verizon which is the biggest network there and also available on the 2nd biggest network in US which is AT&T, customers will have the iPhone as an option. Not to mention that Windows Phone 7 will also launch on first half of 2011 on both Verizon and Sprint. Web OS will also hopefully gain some traction with their GSM release worldwide.

So you will have WP7 and Android on all major US networks. iPhone on AT&T and Verizon which are the biggest mobile network providers in US and webOS hopefully on atleast 3 major US networks as well.

Competition has just started this year IMHO.


Even if the iPhone doubles its US share via Verizon (most unlikely) that would inflate its total by at most 50%, not enough to change the current ranking vs Android. So unless people stop wanting Android phones (also unlikely) then the battle will be fought amongst the smaller players marketshare-wise.

Another point that may influence the result in a year's time - Nokia has a new CEO and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the decision was made for Nokia to start releasing Android powered smartphones as well. And if that came to pass, the Android platform share could well account for 70% of the smartphone market in 2011.

Total speculation of course, but then we have no chrystal ball so that's all we can do. As I said, I wouldn't be surprised, but then again, I'm not brave enough to predict it will happen. :D Food for thought though.

Interesting times indeed.

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R2D2




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ArtooDetoo: 

And that, I believe, is the answer to your dilemma right there. 


Well, my wife took the decision out of my hands, and I can't say I'm disappointed with the result :-D

She surprised me with a 32GB iPhone 4 today for my birthday, which was rather unexpected. I knew the plan was to get me a new phone, but the plan was also to wait a month or two so we could recover from festive spending first. :-) 

If anyone wants to buy a 2nd Gen 32GB iPod Touch, let me know. I'll be listing it on TradeMe shortly. 



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dclegg:
ArtooDetoo: 

And that, I believe, is the answer to your dilemma right there. 


Well, my wife took the decision out of my hands, and I can't say I'm disappointed with the result :-D

She surprised me with a 32GB iPhone 4 today for my birthday, which was rather unexpected. I knew the plan was to get me a new phone, but the plan was also to wait a month or two so we could recover from festive spending first. :-) 

If anyone wants to buy a 2nd Gen 32GB iPod Touch, let me know. I'll be listing it on TradeMe shortly. 


Congrats on your new device dclegg. Make sure you get an impact absorbing case asap and enjoy. :)

Oh, and happy birthday dude.

Cheers,
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ArtooDetoo:
Congrats on your new device dclegg. Make sure you get an impact absorbing case asap and enjoy. :)

Oh, and happy birthday dude.

Cheers,
R2D2


Thanks! The plan was to simply get a replacement back (similar to this, but from a local supplier), and a bumper for the sides (the back's already been ordered). I've already applied a screen protector (badly; I always suck at that :-)).

All I need to do now is figure out whether I want to pay the exorbitant $30 that Vodafone apparently charge for a micro-sim, or pay $20 for a 2 Degrees one. Doing the latter will abandon the $50 credit I still have left though, but I do intend to migrate to them eventually.

The twist is this is credit I didn't pay for, as it was won via Twitter and Facebook comps (@VodafoneTreats FTW!). But credit is credit no matter how I got it, and abandoning it doesn't seem overly smart.

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dclegg:
ArtooDetoo:
Congrats on your new device dclegg. Make sure you get an impact absorbing case asap and enjoy. :)

Oh, and happy birthday dude.

Cheers,
R2D2


Thanks! The plan was to simply get a replacement back (similar to this, but from a local supplier), and a bumper for the sides (the back's already been ordered). I've already applied a screen protector (badly; I always suck at that :-)).

All I need to do now is figure out whether I want to pay the exorbitant $30 that Vodafone apparently charge for a micro-sim, or pay $20 for a 2 Degrees one. Doing the latter will abandon the $50 credit I still have left though, but I do intend to migrate to them eventually.

The twist is this is credit I didn't pay for, as it was won via Twitter and Facebook comps (@VodafoneTreats FTW!). But credit is credit no matter how I got it, and abandoning it doesn't seem overly smart.


Except that you have to pay $30 for a VF MicroSIM to use that $50 credit anyway, and then another $20 later for the 2d one... Buy the 2d one and find another way to use the $50 credit.

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dclegg:

All I need to do now is figure out whether I want to pay the exorbitant $30 that Vodafone apparently charge for a micro-sim, or pay $20 for a 2 Degrees one. Doing the latter will abandon the $50 credit I still have left though, but I do intend to migrate to them eventually.

The twist is this is credit I didn't pay for, as it was won via Twitter and Facebook comps (@VodafoneTreats FTW!). But credit is credit no matter how I got it, and abandoning it doesn't seem overly smart.


You can cut your current mini SIM down to micro SIM and continue to use it.

From the web... "I got my iPhone 4 today, popped out the micro sim, placed it over my old sim and traced it, cut it close with a scissor, [sic] then used a [sic] emery board to size it and knock-off the pointed corners, works great."
So it might be totally free (if you wanna be a little adventurous), plus you keep your credit.

Good luck whichever route you choose.

Cheers,
R2D2





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ArtooDetoo: 

You can cut your current mini SIM down to micro SIM and continue to use it.

From the web... "I got my iPhone 4 today, popped out the micro sim, placed it over my old sim and traced it, cut it close with a scissor, [sic] then used a [sic] emery board to size it and knock-off the pointed corners, works great."
So it might be totally free (if you wanna be a little adventurous), plus you keep your credit.


Yeah, that is a possibility. I've also heard that this may not work with older SIMs, and I got my SIM back in 2004. 

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  #436746 8-Feb-2011 11:43
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Talk about going off topic guys.

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kiwitrc: Talk about going off topic guys.


Yeah, sorry about that. I was merely continuing a conversation started last week. It can now be terminated :-) 

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kiwitrc: Talk about going off topic guys.


True. Although this thread has run its course pretty much anyway, judging by the paucity of recent on-topic posts.

So maybe Mauricio can lock it and let it drift into the oblivion it probably deserves... Laughing

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Gartner and IDC dispute Android's dominance over Symbian in Q4 2010

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/10/gartner-and-idc-dispute-androids-dominance-over-symbian-in-q4-2/

Symbian is still the leader   




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billgates: Gartner and IDC dispute Android's dominance over Symbian in Q4 2010

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/10/gartner-and-idc-dispute-androids-dominance-over-symbian-in-q4-2/

Symbian is still the leader   


So it would seem. I guess Canalys is either less reliable than Gartner/IDC or is using a different metric. I tend to trust Gartner and IDC as their numbers are invariably close.

Interesting points from their chart - Symbian dropped 27% YOY while Android increased 582% YOY. That's an interesting trend for both. Time for Nokia to release WinPhone7 and Android based handsets, if it wants to survive in the smartphone market.

Thanks for the tip billgates.

Cheers,
R2D2

PS: the iPhone 4 launch on Verizon hasn't creaated the pre-opening waiting lines pundits were expecting. It will be interesting to get reports of the actual sales numbers of veriPhones in a couple of weeks, but at this point, it doesn't look like having the iP4 on Verizon is the market share panacea that the Apple community was hoping. Early days though...




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  #438121 11-Feb-2011 08:18
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I guess it all comes down to how you define a smartphone.

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