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tweake
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  #2963983 6-Sep-2022 19:50
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kiwirock:

 

Sales people be sales people, confusion marketing tools. :) "Balanced" ventilation with an actual heat exchanger ('h'eat 'r'ecovery 'v'entilation) is certainly the bees knees all seasons.

 

I would argue to others that suggest not using PPV units it as much during the night in winter, that's when they're almost needed the most if your heat source drops for the night.  In saying that, we don't have either. Heatpump stays on minimum 13 over night or when no one home, windows are cracked open in the morning and kitchen fan put on high to draw fresh air in during breaky, and all locked back up for the day.

 

Moving from a piled house with polyethylene ground sheeting to slab was the difference between mold and no mold for us. Both double layered roof insulation, reflective insulation under the piled house. Both places bathroom windows open a crack for faster return air for the extractor when in use.

 

I think a balanced HRV would hardly ever have to run where we are now. Maybe 5 minutes an hour over night if needed just to keep co2 down for a more comfy sleep in the smaller bedrooms (that's if the neighbours aren't one of those that don't know how to burn a fire hot and clean rather than smoky/wasted fuel).

 

 

With a balanced HRV they are tuned to the house. pretty common to set them up to 0.5 ACH, which is a higher than whats required but as you don't have the heat loss penalty more is better.

 

I'm not a fan of old school running time. i don't see the point of storying the rubbish and breathing it in when you can simply remove it straight away.




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  #2963988 6-Sep-2022 19:54
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Recirculating systems (products like HRV and DVS systems), or fans that do not extract to the outdoors are not suitable to meet the ventilation standard.

 

You cannot use PPV but you can use balanced ventilation system and have the exhaust side as the bathroom exhaust. that way the bathroom is exhausting constantly.


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  #2963990 6-Sep-2022 20:00
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gzt: Thanks for the tip. Is that suitable for fabric and synthetic blinds?

 

 

Yes and no. Its other use is as a surfactant so it's found in a range of cleaning products including carpet cleaner, however these almost always come with a warning to try it on a small unobtrusive patch of the thing to be cleaned first just in case someone manages to find the one thing it's not compatible with. So in theory it should be fine, but try it on a small unobtrusive [...]

 

 

Edited to add: Oh, and it's a bit unpleasant to breathe so make sure you keep the area well ventilated until it's dried out, and/or wear a face mask while you're applying it.



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  #2963992 6-Sep-2022 20:04
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tweake:

 

Recirculating systems (products like HRV and DVS systems), or fans that do not extract to the outdoors are not suitable to meet the ventilation standard.

 

You cannot use PPV but you can use balanced ventilation system and have the exhaust side as the bathroom exhaust. that way the bathroom is exhausting constantly.

 

 

Sure but they aren't recirculating systems.


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  #2964010 6-Sep-2022 20:31
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Handle9:

 

 

 

Sure but they aren't recirculating systems.

 

????

 

Recirculating systems (products like HRV and DVS systems), 


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  #2964012 6-Sep-2022 20:37
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tweake:

Handle9:


 


Sure but they aren't recirculating systems.


????


Recirculating systems (products like HRV and DVS systems), 



You talked about balanced systems. They have a fresh air fan, an extract air fan and generally a heat exchanger. They aren’t recirculating.

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  #2964020 6-Sep-2022 21:06
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Handle9:

You talked about balanced systems. They have a fresh air fan, an extract air fan and generally a heat exchanger. They aren’t recirculating.

 

i know that, you know that, govt idiots don't. the original quote is per previous post up the page and from the healthy home regulations. Its just badly worded. They mean PPV systems.


 
 
 

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  #2964049 7-Sep-2022 05:32
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mattenz:

 

Did he try and spin the old "we're flatmates" defense?

 

If you can get the grant, you probably should.

 

 

Not sure how that defense strategy would work given he is named landlord on the Tenancy Agreement.

 

 

 

To receive the grant homeowners must reside at the premises. I'm ineligible as my house is rented out in Hamilton and I live in Northland, otherwise I would jump on it.

 

In short the grant is unavailable to landlords. From a landlords POV I find this to be completely ludicrous given Healthy Homes.


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  #2964188 7-Sep-2022 13:11
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Linuxluver:

 

BUT!!! Be aware if you get the house assessed for the healthy homes standard...and it fails....you have 90 days to remediate the problem or the tenant can (rightly) take you to the Tenancy Tribunal for mediation and possible compensation if it can't resolved in a timely way.  

 

The compliance date for a tenancy which started before the 1st of July 2021 is 1 July 2024. If you started the tenancy after 1 December 2020 then you should have issued a compliance statement.

 

There's a tool here to show you when you need to comply.

 

https://www.tenancy.govt.nz/healthy-homes/healthy-homes-compliance-timeframes/compliance-timeframes-decision-tool/?decisionpathway=756%2C750%2C744%2C738

 

 

Yep. House built in the 1970s. Tenancy started in May 2022....so.....

"Private rentals must comply within 90 days of any new or renewed tenancy on or after 1 July 2021, with all private rentals complying by 1 July 2024. " 

So....90 days for most people with a house over 14yo where you haven't installed all-new windows and insulated everything... and a tenancy started in the last year.....

We're OK on the insulation but need some new windows......and the damp issue due to moisture barriers on earth-side of the lower flat that used to be compliant (but aren't anymore). 





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  #2964219 7-Sep-2022 14:14
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There’s no requirement for new windows in the healthy homes standard. That’s FUD.

This isn’t a surprise to anyone. The legislation was passed in 2019. I got the insulation in my rental property sorted back then.

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