Routing through Hong Kong to Australian servers. Vodafone says it's "Politics"

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#1248398 28-Feb-2015 12:47

Cable isn't "UFB", as far as I know?

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#1248399 28-Feb-2015 12:51

quickymart: Cable isn't "UFB", as far as I know?

Vodafone market it as UFB still though, the confusion this causes is wonderful.

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#1248423 28-Feb-2015 12:58

quickymart: Cable isn't "UFB", as far as I know?

From the Crown Fibre Holdings website:

"Ultra-Fast Broadband is generally defined as services which deliver much faster speeds, in excess of 25 Mbps." [this definition includes cable]

followed by:

"For the purposes of the New Zealand Government’s Ultra-Fast Broadband initiative, having access to Ultra-Fast Broadband is taken to mean the availability of broadband services at a minimum speed of 100 Mbps Downstream (from the Internet to the user) and a minimum of 50 Mbps Upstream (from user to the Internet)." [this definition excludes cable]

I think of "UFB" as being a very confusing marketing term.

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#1248443 28-Feb-2015 13:37

I don't know why the project wasn't more proactive to prevent this. They have regulations and contracts, plus they could have introduced a name (and ring-fence sound-alikes) that would be licensed to approved suppliers to minimise the confusion.

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#1248506 28-Feb-2015 16:26

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quickymart: Cable isn't "UFB", as far as I know?

From the Crown Fibre Holdings website:

"Ultra-Fast Broadband is generally defined as services which deliver much faster speeds, in excess of 25 Mbps." [this definition includes cable]

followed by:

"For the purposes of the New Zealand Government’s Ultra-Fast Broadband initiative, having access to Ultra-Fast Broadband is taken to mean the availability of broadband services at a minimum speed of 100 Mbps Downstream (from the Internet to the user) and a minimum of 50 Mbps Upstream (from user to the Internet)." [this definition excludes cable]
I think of "UFB" as being a very confusing marketing term.

It’s a great point of what does and does not meet the UFB requirements and the key word to me is availability.

Networking is a great field as there is so many clever people working to expand the capabilites and speed.
Fibre is capable of carrying many Terabits of data per second. Well and truly exceeding the requirement.
DSL is capable of meeting and exceeding the requirement especially bonding multiple pairs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very-high-bit-rate_digital_subscriber_line_2
DOCSIS 3.0 cable technology is capable of exceeding the UFB requirements and a DOCSIS 3.1 Cable technology is capable of 10Gbps down and 1Gbps up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS

I can't wait to see what the providers select to do with the current networks provided and the associated availability.

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#1249698 2-Mar-2015 17:58

UFB in the NZ context is fibre via the access network of one of the regional fibre co's.

Calling cable UFB is just marketing shenanigans, Vodafone will probably call LTE or VDSL "UFB" next if the marketing department gets it's way...

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#1249701 2-Mar-2015 18:04

freitasm: Surely that tards.net site is a joke?

Did anyone really install that software?

The "developer" has a strange sense of humour I guess.

Looks like just a .NET or Delphi win forms app that looks up the stream info for a twitch user and pipes it to Media Player Classic HC bypassing the crappy flash based web player. Seems like a fair amount of people on reddit are using it.

Alternatively use livestreamer where the code is viewable on github.

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#1249705 2-Mar-2015 18:23

Ragnor: UFB in the NZ context is fibre via the access network of one of the regional fibre co's.

Calling cable UFB is just marketing shenanigans, Vodafone will probably call LTE or VDSL "UFB" next if the marketing department gets it's way...

Exactly, im not recalling Who exactly right now, but dont we already have some who blur that line of VDSL too.

Ragnor:
freitasm: Surely that tards.net site is a joke?

Did anyone really install that software?

The "developer" has a strange sense of humour I guess.

Looks like just a .NET or Delphi win forms app that looks up the stream info for a twitch user and pipes it to Media Player Classic HC bypassing the crappy flash based web player. Seems like a fair amount of people on reddit are using it.

Alternatively use livestreamer where the code is viewable on github.

its delphi, i poked around at the bins a little.

As far as i could tell, it does nothing special apart from piping indeed, which is why i ask... why use the dodgy sounding one when there are alternatives which clearly state what they do, are opensource and actually are documented.

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