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Lias
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  #2043920 26-Jun-2018 09:27
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Coil:

 

I am a strong believer in creating a Gangstas Paradise on an island and if you commit a crime like sexual, homicidal or aggravated violence you lose all forms of citizenship all over the globe and get permanently banished to said island to join your fellow criminals and live in the ranks of their society. If they kill, rape, torture or vandalize any of their buddies literally no one cares and its no ones fault. 

 

 

I'm not entirely opposed to that, but how do you ensure they don't escape, and who pays for the infrastructure? Seems to me just shooting them all up front is safer and cheaper for the taxpayer.





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  #2043927 26-Jun-2018 09:35
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Fred99:

 

Please don't read this - your ignorance is entertaining - in a "listening to an incoherent angry drunk" kind of way.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/capitalpunishment/against_1.shtml

 

 

Like I said.. don't know how people can think that way. I don't think all human life is valuable, or that everyone has an inalienable right to live. I don't believe retribution is wrong. I don't believe the death penalty is cruel, but even if it was, I simply don't care if those people have cruel things done to them. In the case of paedophiles especially i'd say they deserve to be slowly tortured to death over an extended period rather than receiving a swift death.





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  #2043944 26-Jun-2018 09:50
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Would have worked well for Arthur Allan Thomas and Teina Pora.




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  #2043949 26-Jun-2018 09:59
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Lias:

 

Fred99:

 

Please don't read this - your ignorance is entertaining - in a "listening to an incoherent angry drunk" kind of way.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/capitalpunishment/against_1.shtml

 

 

Like I said.. don't know how people can think that way. I don't think all human life is valuable, or that everyone has an inalienable right to live. I don't believe retribution is wrong. I don't believe the death penalty is cruel, but even if it was, I simply don't care if those people have cruel things done to them. In the case of paedophiles especially i'd say they deserve to be slowly tortured to death over an extended period rather than receiving a swift death.

 

 

You put innocents to death, caught up by the frailties of humans in the justice system and as witnesses, prosecutors, Judges. You also put the crims on an island where they evolve a new lifestyle and hierachy. Not so bad after all.


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  #2043950 26-Jun-2018 10:00
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Lias:

 

Like I said.. don't know how people can think that way. I don't think all human life is valuable, or that everyone has an inalienable right to live. I don't believe retribution is wrong. I don't believe the death penalty is cruel, but even if it was, I simply don't care if those people have cruel things done to them. 

 

 

Wow. What a thoroughly awful set of beliefs.


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  #2043954 26-Jun-2018 10:03
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Actually, I can't be bothered - nothing to be gained.





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  #2043958 26-Jun-2018 10:11
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Fred99:

 

Lias:

 

Like I said.. don't know how people can think that way. I don't think all human life is valuable, or that everyone has an inalienable right to live. I don't believe retribution is wrong. I don't believe the death penalty is cruel, but even if it was, I simply don't care if those people have cruel things done to them. 

 

 

Wow. What a thoroughly awful set of beliefs.

 

I didn't think we had people around who didn't show some sort of feelings to towards human life but this amazes me. You need help.


 
 
 

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  #2043960 26-Jun-2018 10:13
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Actually, I can't be bothered - nothing to be gained.





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  #2043966 26-Jun-2018 10:21
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Fred99:

 

Wow. What a thoroughly awful set of beliefs.

 

 

Sounds nearly as awful as protecting the rights of the murderers themselves. Where are the victims rights?

 

gulfa:

 

Fred99:

 

Lias:

 

Like I said.. don't know how people can think that way. I don't think all human life is valuable, or that everyone has an inalienable right to live. I don't believe retribution is wrong. I don't believe the death penalty is cruel, but even if it was, I simply don't care if those people have cruel things done to them. 

 

 

Wow. What a thoroughly awful set of beliefs.

 

I didn't think we had people around who didn't show some sort of feelings to towards human life but this amazes me. You need help.

 

 

Where are your feelings towards the victims that have lost their lives? You seem to have no feelings towards them, or their families. Perhaps you need help too.


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  #2043975 26-Jun-2018 10:31
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Wiggum:

 

Where are your feelings towards the victims that have lost their lives? You seem to have no feelings towards them, or their families. Perhaps you need help too.

 

 

Not condoning torture or cruel inhumane treatment of offenders does not imply lack of feelings toward victims or their families.

 

Savages.


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  #2043983 26-Jun-2018 10:40
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Wiggum:

 

Fred99:

 

Wow. What a thoroughly awful set of beliefs.

 

 

Sounds nearly as awful as protecting the rights of the murderers themselves. Where are the victims rights?

 

gulfa:

 

Fred99:

 

Lias:

 

Like I said.. don't know how people can think that way. I don't think all human life is valuable, or that everyone has an inalienable right to live. I don't believe retribution is wrong. I don't believe the death penalty is cruel, but even if it was, I simply don't care if those people have cruel things done to them. 

 

 

Wow. What a thoroughly awful set of beliefs.

 

I didn't think we had people around who didn't show some sort of feelings to towards human life but this amazes me. You need help.

 

 

Where are your feelings towards the victims that have lost their lives? You seem to have no feelings towards them, or their families. Perhaps you need help too.

 

 

This is getting rather nasty and showing how we have different beliefs I feel sorry for people who have who have so little regard for Human Life. I totally support victims and their need for support. 

 

I am genuine when I suggest that someone with such disregard for human life needs help. I am out of here 


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  #2043987 26-Jun-2018 10:56
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gulfa:

 

I feel sorry for people who have who have so little regard for Human Life. I totally support victims and their need for support. 

 

I am genuine when I suggest that someone with such disregard for human life needs help. I am out of here 

 

 

Before you run off, Who deserves the more right to life? An unborn child 6 weeks away from birth, or a rapist/killer? it always amazes me how some people can be pro-life for the worst of societies killers, yet they generally the same bunch that show no emotion to the unborn.

 

 


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  #2044004 26-Jun-2018 11:27
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Wiggum:

 

Who deserves the more right to life? An unborn child 6 weeks away from birth, or a rapist/killer?

 

 

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Actually, I can't be bothered - nothing to be gained.

 

 


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OK, if this is turning into another abortion debate then the thread has lost its purpose. Moreover, I find some of the opinions here abhorrent. I'm out.


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  #2045037 27-Jun-2018 21:37
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@Wiggum:

 

gulfa:

 

I feel sorry for people who have who have so little regard for Human Life. I totally support victims and their need for support. 

 

I am genuine when I suggest that someone with such disregard for human life needs help. I am out of here 

 

 

Before you run off, Who deserves the more right to life? An unborn child 6 weeks away from birth, or a rapist/killer? it always amazes me how some people can be pro-life for the worst of societies killers, yet they generally the same bunch that show no emotion to the unborn.

 

 

Where did abortion come from? How is this relevant to this topic? Where the "unborn child 6 weeks away from birth" comes from?

 

Please explain, show evidence.





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