Advice please - We are only 300 metre away from UFB but 2 more years until installation.

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DarkShadow

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#1387862 15-Sep-2015 13:16

^^ Second port installs on Chorus ONT is working now. No need for additional ONTs. :)

gregb

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#1389723 18-Sep-2015 14:41

I'm also interested in more than one connection. Whether it is to send it to neighbour, to run a home business, flatmates, different services from different ISP, etc there is likely to be the requirement for more than one service.

I rang 2Degrees/Snap to try to find out what Enable and Chorus could offer. Whether they could:
- run multiple fibers
- provide multiple services out the ONT ports
- provide multiple services out one ONT port on different VLANs

2Degrees (Snap) told me that Chorus would provide it with two ONT's. Which by implication I read as two fibres, or one fibre and a local optical splitter. The previous post says they can now provide two connections a single ONT (is there a link or document from Chorus that clears this up?). The information I received said it was limited to two connections. Even though the ONT has 4 ports, only two were possible.

2Degrees (Snap) told me that Enable could provide up to four services with an aggregate bandwidth of 1Gbps out of the ONT. These would be one service per port. There was a little bit of ambiguity on what 1Gbps meant for me, given that the GPON service is not symmetrical). Clearly if you have the option of selecting a property/home Enable Networks seem to be ahead in terms of the options available.

Why isn't this sort of information made available by the local fibre companies? It's not a big ask for these companies to be a little bit transparent.

quickymart

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#1389768 18-Sep-2015 15:35

Why would you need more than one connection? Can't say I've heard of a business requiring more than one fibre connection.

DarkShadow

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#1389777 18-Sep-2015 15:46

The Chorus secondary offer is here. It allows you to get services on the unused ports on the ONT. There's a limited range of plans available, for example 200/200 is not available as a secondary.

You can also get a second ONT installed if you want. The standard Chorus install provides 2 fibres per house, one blue and one orange, see picture.

lxsw20

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#1389780 18-Sep-2015 15:57

quickymart: Why would you need more than one connection? Can't say I've heard of a business requiring more than one fibre connection.

Plenty of reasons. Keeping your dev and prod separate, keeping a client wifi system well away from production etc.

gregb

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#1389827 18-Sep-2015 17:42

DarkShadow thanks for the link. If I read that document correctly, the generalised case is that a retail ISP could provision multiple services per ONT port (UNI) and the end user could have up to 4 different retail ISP's per ONT. This offer is for a second service for ISPs to offer to their customers and is good up until 30th Oct 2015. The trial doesn't deal with the generic case of multiple connections, just a second connection. There is also the option to install a second ONT as Chorus install two fibres per premise.

I would have though that there would be more interest and documentation for this sort of thing from wireless providers whom could extend the reach of UFB coverage. It seems that you wouldn't be breaking any terms of service to extend a ONT UNI port 10km+ out to a farm/lifestyle property with a 5GHz link (say airFiber 5 or airFiber X).

richms

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#1389830 18-Sep-2015 17:46

quickymart: Why would you need more than one connection? Can't say I've heard of a business requiring more than one fibre connection.

Multiple tennants in one building? Subletting out a space to someone else.

Etc Etc.

Easier to get a second connection than to worry about who pays how much, who used how much and why is the internet so damn slow, who is doing all that traffic.

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quickymart

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#1389870 18-Sep-2015 18:50

Okay, I can see there could be valid reasons. I read it as a home connection looking for two separate ONT's.

Jase2985

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#1389872 18-Sep-2015 18:54

pretty much the reply above your one outlines that.

richms

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#1389886 18-Sep-2015 19:27

I have a flatmate, they have their own connection. That would be 2 onts. Actyually it would be 3 if I was to convert all DSL's to fiber. But that's only because of terrible DSL that I need to have 2, so if fiber comes along then probably 2 would be enough. Will have to see how well the QOS works pushing out backups and cameras etc while gaming to see if I need to get 2 or if 1 is fine.

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Aredwood

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#1389915 18-Sep-2015 20:38

richms: I have a flatmate, they have their own connection. That would be 2 onts. Actyually it would be 3 if I was to convert all DSL's to fiber. But that's only because of terrible DSL that I need to have 2, so if fiber comes along then probably 2 would be enough. Will have to see how well the QOS works pushing out backups and cameras etc while gaming to see if I need to get 2 or if 1 is fine.

Get a router that supports fq-codel. Edge router lite definitely does.

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