Advice please - We are only 300 metre away from UFB but 2 more years until installation.

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cnago

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Wannabe Geek

#180536 12-Sep-2015 20:53

Our house can only get up to 10mbps ADSL2 connection and the actual speed is around 6mbps, in the evenings it is even slower. ADSL2 is the only connection available for our house which is in Mt Albert, Auckland.

We are only 300 metres away from the nearest house that has UFB connection, according Chorus website, we will not have UFB until 2017 and 2018.

Could anyone advice how to get a faster broadband for our house? This is getting really frustrating!

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Ultimate Geek

#1386368 12-Sep-2015 21:01

Are you friendly with anyone in the Ufb zone with Line of sight,
If so a few hundred of ubiquiti wireless gear from gowifi.co.nz can transmit from an fibre connection in there garage to your house,

Jeremy

GJones

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#1386370 12-Sep-2015 21:07

Welcome to my world... Same situation, unfortunately there always has to be a line drawn somewhere. I know one person who was house next door material!

cnago

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Wannabe Geek

#1386372 12-Sep-2015 21:09

Thank you Jeremy, I will try to make some friends there :)

JeremyNzl

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Ultimate Geek

#1386376 12-Sep-2015 21:18

THe guys at gowifi can preconfigure the two access points so u just line them up till all the leds come up,
Its just the same has having a cable link with the usual wireless issues i.e clear line of sight , channel interference.
to get the best out of them it will pay to spend some time on the ubiquiti forums , some basic networking knowledge is advisable,
Or hire a friendly local person from this forum.
The power consumption is minimal , and static so easy to work out reinbursment.

http://www.gowifi.co.nz/backhaul-point-to-point/ubiquiti-5ghz-powerbeam-ac-with-300mm-isolator-ring.html

The 450mbs is peak not actual throughput so expect 25%

something like a couple of those, will mount to aerial masts u will need one for each end.

I am pushing a 30mb vdsl connection 3kms on there af5x gear with only 2ms extra latency,

To keep life simple draw up a formal contract with you prospective friend , saves hassle later on

cnago

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Wannabe Geek

#1386382 12-Sep-2015 21:36

Does this mean that each of these APs will be connected to the router in each home? On my router it goes into the WAN port in bridge mode?

quickymart

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#1386388 12-Sep-2015 21:49

Some parts of Mt Albert appear to have VDSL available - I guess that doesn't apply in your situation though?

cnago

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Wannabe Geek

#1386527 13-Sep-2015 10:29

You are right, there's only ADSL2 available.

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JeremyNzl

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Ultimate Geek

#1386623 13-Sep-2015 13:28

cnago: Does this mean that each of these APs will be connected to the router in each home? On my router it goes into the WAN port in bridge mode?

Lots of ways to do it but yes , it can be used a transparent bridge.
I have no experience with fibre someone else with more knowledge of connecting to an ont via the above setup might offer advise .

gregb

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Master Geek

#1387156 14-Sep-2015 13:40

What options are people using to extend the UFB network at the UFB connection end? Are they piggy-backing onto the ISP router and sharing the ISP connection or are they getting another service provisioned onto the ONT? Is it possible to get a second service on the ONT? Which providers support this (chorus? enable?).

If another port is provisioned then each connection can get it's own bandwidth. I assume it would then also be fully within the terms of the service of the ISP. With a second ONT port you could just bridge the second port to a remote location and have the ISP router at that remote location.

What are people doing if they also want to get a phone service? And get end-to-end QOS?

Thanks

khull

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#1387488 14-Sep-2015 20:54

cnago: Our house can only get up to 10mbps ADSL2 connection and the actual speed is around 6mbps, in the evenings it is even slower. ADSL2 is the only connection available for our house which is in Mt Albert, Auckland.

We are only 300 metres away from the nearest house that has UFB connection, according Chorus website, we will not have UFB until 2017 and 2018.

Could anyone advice how to get a faster broadband for our house? This is getting really frustrating!

We had fibre running on the SAME side of our street but bypassed our MDU. MDU had consents etc and everything was good to go and yet took over 18 months to get service and part of the wait was to figure out how to bring the fibre less than 5 meters into the building

sbiddle

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#1387496 14-Sep-2015 21:11

If you see slowdowns in the evening you should move ISP's. Vast majority of ISP's don't have peak time slowdowns.

richms

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#1387507 14-Sep-2015 21:32

sbiddle: If you see slowdowns in the evening you should move ISP's. Vast majority of ISP's don't have peak time slowdowns.

Unless they are using wifi, in which case a peak time slowdown is to be expected in urban areas.

Richard rich.ms

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#1387670 15-Sep-2015 09:37

One of my clients is in a similar situation - the UFB network stops a short distance from his property in Titirangi, but he is keen to get the service now rather than wait for the network to be extended in 2019.

He has followed the Chorus "NGA On Application" process. He contacted Chorus directly, who scoped the work required to get the network to his house. They then provided him with a reference number and asked him to contact his preferred provider - which in this case was Spark.

If anyone else is thinking of going down this route, you can send an email to ruralbroadband@chorus.co.nz stating your address and that you would like to have a quote to get fibre to your property. Chorus will then investigate what services can be provided, and the estimated difficulty and complexity of providing them. If NGA network extension is feasable, you will be provided with an NGA On Application reference number (NOA number). Give this to your chosen provider and ask for a connection request to be submitted. Chorus will release the network build quote details to your porvider, who will advise you of the full retail price to complete the network extension and connection to your property. You accept the cost in writing, then the network extension will begin.
Easy! (As long as you can afford the cost to extend the network to your property of course)

The views expressed by me are not necessarily those of my employer Chorus NZ Ltd

timbosan

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#1387683 15-Sep-2015 09:53

gregb: What options are people using to extend the UFB network at the UFB connection end? Are they piggy-backing onto the ISP router and sharing the ISP connection or are they getting another service provisioned onto the ONT? Is it possible to get a second service on the ONT? Which providers support this (chorus? enable?).

If another port is provisioned then each connection can get it's own bandwidth. I assume it would then also be fully within the terms of the service of the ISP. With a second ONT port you could just bridge the second port to a remote location and have the ISP router at that remote location.

What are people doing if they also want to get a phone service? And get end-to-end QOS?

Thanks

I asked this question when I had UFB installed (in Auckland) as I had heard the second port on the ONT can be used. However in Chorus areas a second connection comes with a second ONT, so in this case the OP could have their own ONT and their own account for UFB with their ISP, then push the data over the wireless link (assuming they can find someone who would be OK with this). It means everything data wise is separate.

A logical extension would be to make this bandwidth available to others who don't have access to UFB (community Wifi?) and make some money back on the installation costs. Slightly more complex though if you don't want a single person hogging the connection.

maoriboy

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#1387782 15-Sep-2015 12:07

UFB installation stopped next door to my house as I'm connected to a different exchange. It was literally a case of 5 metres but unfortunately they wouldn't budge.

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