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SpartanVXL
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  #3314350 30-Nov-2024 10:38
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Just confirming, you have the EVGA 600 BR 600W power supply? You may need to take the other side panel off to access it. If at all uncertain then best to take the free offer from the tech.

First things first, I would try find another PCI-E power cable exactly like the one currently plugged into the rtx 2060. If the PC had any extras bundled with it, it should be with the case/power supply box if they provided that. Otherwise take a look near the power supply itself, they may have ziptied it near there.

If you can’t find one no biggie, to replace the GPU depress the clip on the pcie power plugged into the 2060 and pull/wiggle it out gently.

Unscrew the pcie i/o bracket of the GPU from the case (left side of the gpu in your photos).

To release the GPU from motherboard there is a clip you have to hold down at the end of the motherboards pcie slot, opposite end from the gpu bracket, roughly below where the system ram is. It might be a bit of a squeeze to get to, but it doesn’t take much force to hold. Can use the end of a disposable chopstick or a sillicone kitchen utensil.

The GPU is free now and you can pull it out.

Installing the 4070 is the reverse, push it into the slot and the clip you were holding will keep it in. Screw the bracket to the case at the end to keep it in properly. Now the power, it should come with an adapter in the box that you need to use with two regular pcie power plugs.

The cable in the photo has two plugs daisy chained, someone will definitely come along and say that it’s not safe to use both of them and normally they’d be right, but the fact the 4070s is only 220W and PSU makers (evga, corsair) skirt the standard by over engineering those cables. If you found another cable earlier all the better, use the first plug thats attached to the cable (not the one on the end) from both cables into the adapter.

Otherwise use both on the same cable into the adapter, then plug in the pcie 16pin into the GPU.

All done, it should boot now.

A youtube video will probably show this better than words, so do view a few video guides to know what to look for before starting.



Twalknz72

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  #3314369 30-Nov-2024 13:27
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Ah, so a lot more involved now. I think I'll watch the tech, mobile tech, and learn some things.

Twalknz72

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  #3315130 2-Dec-2024 12:13
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It's ordered and we have the tech penciled in for Friday. I've asked if he would sort the fan, quoting y'all for reference, pop in the ram and asked about the thermal paste. He's suggesting all this should be about 2 and 1/2 hours, the half hour is left over from before.
Regarding the thermal paste he's said "This process is messy and can take a bit of time depending on how things go. It involves basically taking off the CPU cooler, cleaning the cpu (and usually the rest of the computer) and then putting it all back together. For this one I would recommend letting me take everything back to office and setting it up properly. If you want to do this, I can simply come and pick it up and charge you for 2 hours of labor (+ time leftover from last visit) to get it all sorted."

Does this sound right?

Thanks again



Qazzy03
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  #3315138 2-Dec-2024 13:07
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Changing the cpu thermal paste can be messy and 100% requires the cpu fan and heat sink to be tank off.
Depending on the
Motherboard and the case you have it may need to be taken fully out of the computer case.
In which case it can take a bit of time to plug everything back together.

I usually do it myself but I don't know how long it takes me. But can take a bit of time as I go slow and carefully.

I am not sure if you would like to consider a smaller cpu cooler, to avoid the ram over hang issue.

I don't have a cooler suggestion, but the tech might have something at their work area.
It would be reasonable for the tech to work at their place of work yo ensure everything is set up and work before they hand pc back to you.

I.e it can be easy to have something not plugged in correctly and there could be trouble shooting time to sort what needs to be done.

SpartanVXL
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  #3315167 2-Dec-2024 14:38
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What was the reason for repasting? If you’re wanting to have it done, yes it can be messy with cleaning the paste off with isopropyl. If the rest of the machine is also getting a clean it could take a while.

If it’s just for the fans, the H5 doesn’t need to be removed in order to adjust the fans. It’s finnicky and a lot easier if you have slender fingers and strong nails, but doable without removing the heatsink and needing to repaste (speaking from experience with my H7).

Qazzy03
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  #3315190 2-Dec-2024 16:28
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The repaste was my suggestion, OP doesn't have to do it but if the machine is 4 years old It is something I would think about doing. I do mine every 4 to 5 years.

Mind you most people never get it done, so yeah it's fine to not get it done if the computer doesn't have heating issues.

SpartanVXL
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  #3318246 9-Dec-2024 07:58
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FYI Indiana Jones and the Great Circle is released, if you bought the new GPU remember to get a game code from PBtech’s website.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/promotions/nvidia-rtx-indiana-jones-game-bonus

 
 
 
 

Shop now for Lenovo laptops and other devices (affiliate link).
Twalknz72

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  #3319310 11-Dec-2024 15:54
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The tech has just left and installed the new GPU. My son isn't home yet so we'll see what it's like when he starts his games.

Now i was watching the tech and he had a play around with the cpu fan but in the end it was decided to leave it, and the ram, and look into an aio watercoolers. So what do y'all recommend? Computer lounges best selling is https://computerlounge.co.nz/products/deepcool-ls720s-zero-dark-360mm-liquid-aio-cpu-cooler

He won't be in a hurry but figured we might as well start looking into it.

Thank you again lovely people.

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  #3319313 11-Dec-2024 16:09
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the LS720 is an overkill for you but it's the best

 

over the weekend i repasted 6 CPUs coz i was swapping parts all over to build a new machine with excess parts.

 

my 13900K was running at 100C with everything i could throw at it, until installed the LS720 ... now temps are 80C max, and around 60-70C average

 

so ... yeah i totally recommend the thing


SpartanVXL
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  #3319349 11-Dec-2024 19:30
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The MB320L case you have only supports up to 240/280mm, 280 on front only which means moving those fans.

You could change to an aio and not worry about clearance. Were you able to see why the fan couldn’t be adjusted? If the tech didn’t try putting it on the reverse side then you can attempt it yourself as the clips are very simple.

Batman is right in that it is quite overkill for a 10700k, but if you plan on taking it with you to the next machine then by all means. Another recommendation is the Artic Freezer series (they’re up to III now). Might not be in stock in nz but are available on amazon au.

Otherwise any well reviewed 240mm aio will suffice.

Twalknz72

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  #3319402 11-Dec-2024 20:36
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SpartanVXL: The MB320L case you have only supports up to 240/280mm, 280 on front only which means moving those fans.

You could change to an aio and not worry about clearance. Were you able to see why the fan couldn’t be adjusted? If the tech didn’t try putting it on the reverse side then you can attempt it yourself as the clips are very simple.

Batman is right in that it is quite overkill for a 10700k, but if you plan on taking it with you to the next machine then by all means. Another recommendation is the Artic Freezer series (they’re up to III now). Might not be in stock in nz but are available on amazon au.

Otherwise any well reviewed 240mm aio will suffice.


OK I watched him today and he explained everything. If we move the fan to the other side it'll suck not blow which, he believes, would cause it to be less effective. He looked at moving the fan up a wee bit but then it wouldn't be cooling the whole heat sink. Does this sound right, this is all from memory.

As far as a new cooler, yes he'd take that and the graphics card with him as he upgrades.

I don't understand the 240 /280 stuff at all sorry.

SpartanVXL
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  #3319426 11-Dec-2024 22:50
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There is negligible effect on cooling as long as air exhaust is not blocked. Pull config may have slight noise increase. If you’re concerned about temperatures then please look online about push/pull comparisons, lot of people asking the same question over many years.

Before spending money on a AIO water cooler, attempt the adjustment yourself to see if you can put in the new memory. It’s worth the effort and theres not much that can go wrong.

The 240/280mm is the size of the radiator on water cooling units. The one you linked from computer lounge is a 360mm radiator and will not fit the case. The sizing works by fan mounts it covers, 240mm is 120mm x2 which covers two fan mounts.

Twalknz72

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  #3319492 12-Dec-2024 10:32
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Thank you, that makes sense. So the case is a mini tower. Would you replace it, not now but when upgrading? Is the size of the case going to be a problem when upgrading components?

SpartanVXL
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  #3319601 12-Dec-2024 15:45
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Case size is a preference, if you like the current one theres no need to replace it. It does restrict what you can fit inside, just double check measurements of components before purchasing. AIO coolers usually have multiple size models, a 240mm is plenty for any CPU that isn’t the recent power hog Intel’s (13/14th gen).

I don’t think many people still keep with the massive full tower’s of the 2000’s, all my friends have now downsized to small form factors or laptops.

Twalknz72

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  #3320766 15-Dec-2024 12:53
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He's not attached to his case, it's just the one that came with the prebuild. Is there a big difference between cases, other than the obvious size (full-form factor)?

As a side note am I missing something, he's not been able to download the indiana Jones game. We've registered the card, made sure to have an NVIDIA account but there doesn't seem to be an option to download, just the graphics settings?

Thank you again

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