Two Internet Connections, 2 Static IP's. Help with Unblocking Port 25

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#179235 1-Sep-2015 10:55

We have a customer with ADSL, with a Static IP, and port25 is unblocked. They ordered UFB and intend to drop their ADSL.

The UFB has it's own Static IP, and I have requested Static IP Port 25 Unblocking for that IP, and it was refused because

This Spark Broadband phone number is already unblocked from Port 25 filtering

This is a Naked UFB connection.

I understood and called Spark support who said, no problem, they will manually override that and proceeded to do it and said I'd get a confirmation email shortly. 12 hours later the exact same reason was given for the unblock refusal!

It's on a different account.

How do I get this resolved?

We can't block port 25 on the ADSL until it's unblocked on the UFB!

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#1377603 1-Sep-2015 10:55

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#1377632 1-Sep-2015 11:19

You need Port 25 unblocked because you run an MTA on the connection? (I assume it's not simply for MUA SMTP which you could run on Port 587).

And your service provider won't unblock it?
Dare I suggest changing service provider to one who's bureaucracy won't break your service?

Beyond that, you have no choice but to log a fault with Spark and let it run through process. If they've chosen to associate Port 25 blocking with phone numbers when in this day of Naked DSL and UFB, there is no 1:1 relationship between phone and internet services, it's their problem when it fails. Raise a fault, or move to a service provider who aren't so hard to deal with (there are plenty).

IMHO.

(If a suitably empowered Spark person trolls these forums, then you're lucky, but this is symptomatic of a bigger issue when one has to resort to broadcasting on a non-official public forum to get help with what should be a simple request)

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#1377639 1-Sep-2015 11:26

Flick me a PM with your details and what you need to happen and I will see what I can do to sort it.

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#1377642 1-Sep-2015 11:28

I called back Spark and a women said she has checked 2 systems and it's showing as unblocked! I haven't actually tested it yet. I might get CBRpilot to check it and test it. Hope that's ok.

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#1377646 1-Sep-2015 11:35

networkn: I called back Spark and a women said she has checked 2 systems and it's showing as unblocked! I haven't actually tested it yet. I might get CBRpilot to check it and test it. Hope that's ok.

Um.. how will the service provider test it ? You need someone on the back of the connection concerned to try it out. And I suggest that doing this before posting on here (public forum outside of official support channels, last resort styles) may have been smart :-).

cbrpilot you're a good sort. Out of interest in this scenario where both the DSL And UFB service are live at the same address, would requesting port 25 unblocking apply to either, or both, connections?
As it almost sounds like there's an all-or-nothing approach on a by-address basis (or by-phone-number basis, which would be odd for naked service, but anyway...)

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#1377651 1-Sep-2015 11:43

BlakJak:
networkn: I called back Spark and a women said she has checked 2 systems and it's showing as unblocked! I haven't actually tested it yet. I might get CBRpilot to check it and test it. Hope that's ok.

Um.. how will the service provider test it ? You need someone on the back of the connection concerned to try it out. And I suggest that doing this before posting on here (public forum outside of official support channels, last resort styles) may have been smart :-).

cbrpilot you're a good sort. Out of interest in this scenario where both the DSL And UFB service are live at the same address, would requesting port 25 unblocking apply to either, or both, connections?
As it almost sounds like there's an all-or-nothing approach on a by-address basis (or by-phone-number basis, which would be odd for naked service, but anyway...)

Sorry there should have been a comma in my sentence indicating I'd get HIM to check it and then I'd test it.

Seems like it might be sorted. Thanks to CBR Pilot.

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#1377685 1-Sep-2015 12:13

BlakJak:
networkn: I called back Spark and a women said she has checked 2 systems and it's showing as unblocked! I haven't actually tested it yet. I might get CBRpilot to check it and test it. Hope that's ok.

Um.. how will the service provider test it ? You need someone on the back of the connection concerned to try it out. And I suggest that doing this before posting on here (public forum outside of official support channels, last resort styles) may have been smart :-).

cbrpilot you're a good sort. Out of interest in this scenario where both the DSL And UFB service are live at the same address, would requesting port 25 unblocking apply to either, or both, connections?
As it almost sounds like there's an all-or-nothing approach on a by-address basis (or by-phone-number basis, which would be odd for naked service, but anyway...)

Our systems will show what it "should" be, as in unblocked. As a check we can look at the connection, in real time, to see what it really is, and go from there

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#1377687 1-Sep-2015 12:18

BlakJak:
networkn: I called back Spark and a women said she has checked 2 systems and it's showing as unblocked! I haven't actually tested it yet. I might get CBRpilot to check it and test it. Hope that's ok.

Um.. how will the service provider test it ? You need someone on the back of the connection concerned to try it out. And I suggest that doing this before posting on here (public forum outside of official support channels, last resort styles) may have been smart :-).

cbrpilot you're a good sort. Out of interest in this scenario where both the DSL And UFB service are live at the same address, would requesting port 25 unblocking apply to either, or both, connections?
As it almost sounds like there's an all-or-nothing approach on a by-address basis (or by-phone-number basis, which would be odd for naked service, but anyway...)

These are individual connections, seperate. The Static and Port 25(f unblocked) should be moved over on a DSL to Fibre upgrade, sometimes that gets missed.
Being naked makes no difference. Platform makes no difference (ADSL, VDSL, Fibre) The opnly rule for Port 25 unblock is residential Home Unlimited is not eligible