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#171198 9-Apr-2015 16:46
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I am on a Broadband/Landline package with Vodafone and have upgraded to a VDSL modem(using Wifi) about a year ago, thinking this would improve my broadband speed. I have gone from a download speed of about 7mbps on the previous entry level modem to at the most 13mbps with the VDSL. I have also done speed test with Ethernet cable connected with very little difference.
The issue is also my immediate next door neighbours are also with Vodafone, same package and modem change at the same time and their speeds are averaging 20mbps.
I have had numerous communications with Vodafone and they have checked their end of the connection with no problem found. They have logged jobs with Chorus about 3 times with the outcome being Chorus informing me due to high demand in our neighbourhood on the cabinet some customers basically will get a lower broadband speed.
When asked if they would groom the pairs they told me they wouldn't as then someone else would then have slow speed, as I have to endure.  Yet I am expected to continue to pay the full price for my plan as my neighbours and apparently accept almost half the speed they are getting, I find this most unacceptable.
Chorus told me to go back to Vodafone as they are my ISP and Vodafone tell my its Chorus that is responsible for broadband speed. 
Our street (Oak Ave, Paremata), won't have fibre till August this year and I was told by one of the chorus techs that having fibre may still not solve my slow broadband speed.
I am not a technically experienced person so forgive me if I have not used the correct terminology.
I would be grateful for any feedback on this problem.



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  #1279812 9-Apr-2015 16:46
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

 

- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap

 


 

- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing

 


 

- you read this topic and follow the instructions there.

 



 

Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

 



 

- Your ISP and plan

 


 

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

 


 

- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)

 


 

- Your general location (or street)

 


 

- If you are rural or urban

 


 

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

 


 

- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service

 


 

- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

 



 

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

 



 

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)

 


 

- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?




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  #1279852 9-Apr-2015 17:21
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Hi @Lonnie

Answer PeterReader questions above and we should be able to help you but correct retail cost does not change on the speed you are connecting at this is the same for all ISP's, 13Mbp/s is well above the regulated speed for broadband, Many rural broadband users would give up their first born child for anything close to this speed

Be pleased you are not connected to a rual cabinet called a Conklin,

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  #1279858 9-Apr-2015 17:28
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johnr: Hi @Lonnie

Answer PeterReader questions above and we should be able to help you but correct retail cost does not change on the speed you are connecting at this is the same for all ISP's, 13Mbp/s is well above the regulated speed for broadband, Many rural broadband users would give up their first born child for anything close to this speed

Be pleased you are not connected to a rual cabinet called a Conklin,

John



13 isnt too bad, but shouldn't VDSL expect better?



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  #1279864 9-Apr-2015 17:34
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Yabanize:
johnr: Hi @Lonnie

Answer PeterReader questions above and we should be able to help you but correct retail cost does not change on the speed you are connecting at this is the same for all ISP's, 13Mbp/s is well above the regulated speed for broadband, Many rural broadband users would give up their first born child for anything close to this speed

Be pleased you are not connected to a rual cabinet called a Conklin,

John



13 isnt too bad, but shouldn't VDSL expect better?


Depends on a number of factors and this includes the cable pair the end user is conected to, We need to know what the modem xDSL line stats are

Lonnie check out this VDSL thread and this will also help you

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=90&topicid=105744

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  #1279873 9-Apr-2015 17:42
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Lonnie:... Our street ... won't have fibre till August this year and I was told by one of the chorus techs that having fibre may still not solve my slow broadband speed...


This does not make sense to me.
Your experience with VDSL is not unusual.
But UFB is a different technology and should be much faster.

I'd stop beating my head against a wall and wait for UFB.




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  #1279894 9-Apr-2015 18:07
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The more users that connect up to VDSL the speed drops due to cross talk

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  #1279896 9-Apr-2015 18:11
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Yabanize:
johnr: Hi @Lonnie

Answer PeterReader questions above and we should be able to help you but correct retail cost does not change on the speed you are connecting at this is the same for all ISP's, 13Mbp/s is well above the regulated speed for broadband, Many rural broadband users would give up their first born child for anything close to this speed

Be pleased you are not connected to a rual cabinet called a Conklin,

John



13 isnt too bad, but shouldn't VDSL expect better?


VDSL2 is still a best effort service. There are plenty of reasons why the speed could be what it is, and without knowing a *lot* more information any comments are really pure speculation.

Just because a neighbour gets faster speeds is also rather meaningless - I've got multiple VDSL2 connections into a building where there is a 20Mbps difference between sync rates. One is a dodgy pair but every other free pair at the pillar is also dodgy.


 
 
 

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Lonnie:... Our street ... won't have fibre till August this year and I was told by one of the chorus techs that having fibre may still not solve my slow broadband speed...


This does not make sense to me.
Your experience with VDSL is not unusual.
But UFB is a different technology and should be much faster.

I'd stop beating my head against a wall and wait for UFB.


Presumably what the tech meant is fibre in the area won't make the customers VDSL go faster.

Frankly if the customer could only get 7Mbit ADSL I'm surprised they can get VDSL at all.




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