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#312877 25-May-2024 20:49
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I have a Unifi Dream Machine Special Edition, and my intention is to bypass the supplied Nokia hyperfibre router.

I have purchased "FC LC SC APC to SC LC UPC" fibre optic cable and a 10G LC SFP Module.

I should be able to plug the APC side of the cable into the ONT and the UPC side into the SFP port on the UDM-SE, right? Is there anything else I need to do to get the fibre working directly?


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  #3234696 25-May-2024 20:53
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No. You can’t bypass the ONT. You always need to have the ONT there, there is no SFP module you can buy that works. 





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  #3234701 25-May-2024 21:17
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Really? Why is that? I thought the fibre was just a mode of transport? As long as the SFP had the right connector input?

 

 


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  #3234704 25-May-2024 21:37
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Hi it's choruses network not yours, you need to use there supplied hardware or nothing, end of story.

Yes there are lots of gpon SFP modules on the market, but if they are not compliant with Choruses ISAM, and not supported by Chorus for connection then it's a no go, it's not a free for all network you are connecting to, it's Choruses, play the game or go home.

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  #3234711 25-May-2024 22:40
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The fibre is GPON or XG-PON in the case of Hyperfibre you it is not ethernet, the ONT converts this back into ethernet, you use the 10G port on the ONT to connect to the UDM

If you want to eliminate the Nokia ONT you need to buy an expensive Bitstream 3/4 service and have Chorus supply you a SFP/SFP+ ONT




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  #3234718 25-May-2024 23:00
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jaxnz:

 

I have a Unifi Dream Machine Special Edition, and my intention is to bypass the supplied Nokia hyperfibre router.

I have purchased "FC LC SC APC to SC LC UPC" fibre optic cable and a 10G LC SFP Module.

 

Hopefully you can get a refund for these items as you can't use them on the Chorus fibre network.


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  #3234760 26-May-2024 11:48
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As others have already said: No.

 

jaxnz:

 

Really? Why is that? I thought the fibre was just a mode of transport? As long as the SFP had the right connector input?

 

 

That being said, thought it was worthwhile adding some more definition around this for public interest - as yes, you're correct that fibre is just a mode of transport, however you are not renting the fibre in its entirety, and are simply picking up a service upon the physical fibre which is dictacted by the other end.

 

If you wanted to do whatever you wanted over the fibre, you'd want a DFAS (direct fibre access service), which simply rents you a strand of fibre from point A to point B, and its completely up to you what you put on both ends of the fibre.

 

How UFB is delivered is quite different, and doesn't use just bog standard SFPs or bare fibre end-to-end, and instead uses something called GPON or a variety of (e.g. XGS-PON).

 

These networks still utilise physical fibre, however the laser connecting to the OLT at the exchange also runs through a splitter at your local cabinet/exchange, which splits this single SFP in the OLT into a varying number of customers connected to it (think of it as a one-to-many kind of situation), which is entirely different from a standard Ethernet design.

 

Understand GPON Technology - Cisco
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This means if you disconnected the fibre from the ONT and connected to it directly, you wouldn't get far, as you're not using a PON-type SFP, and it's not setup for the network its connecting to. Instead you need the ONT to terminate the signal going through the splitter on a specific wavelength, and perform the conversion to Ethernet for your service.

 

Having the ONT also has other benefits as provides the LFC and your ISP information on how your service is performing, light levels, port negotiation and the like. The ONT also acts as a very clear demarcation point of the line in the sand of what you're responsible for, and what the LFC/your provider is responsible for.





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