iSky discussion (was Orcon building a CDN for Sky)

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#385491 28-Sep-2010 14:52

TelstraClear said"no free lunch for SKY",and even have some glitch around the terms that make SKY content available to TelstraClear, so it will hard to see TelstraClear give their users unmetered on iSKY...

And take the fact that Telecom is in a deal with TiVo, most likely they will not on board for unmetered for iSKY as well..

The other big one Vodafone might be... then you have all the other small isps which combined market share less than 10%?might want to get on board...

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#385512 28-Sep-2010 15:41

cws82us: Did Alcatel do telecom network and failed big time. will this happen to isky too?

Are you serious? The XT network you are thinking of is a mobile network, the CDN for sky is a fixed line data network. Two completely different technologies.

Alcatel also manage Telecom's data network (and built a lot of it) and you don't see that breaking down much.

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#385575 28-Sep-2010 18:10

I wonder if it will be accessible by PS 3 like the vidzone or tvnz on demand service. You'd only need a login surely (or it could be based on IP maybe)

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#385578 28-Sep-2010 18:17

graemeh:
cws82us: Did Alcatel do telecom network and failed big time. will this happen to isky too?

Are you serious? The XT network you are thinking of is a mobile network, the CDN for sky is a fixed line data network. Two completely different technologies.

Alcatel also manage Telecom's data network (and built a lot of it) and you don't see that breaking down much.

I talking about the company Alcatel. How Alcatel Build xt network and how there was alot of outages. it can happen with isky the same thing but the server based

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#385598 28-Sep-2010 18:54

flyrat: I wonder if it will be accessible by PS 3 like the vidzone or tvnz on demand service. You'd only need a login surely (or it could be based on IP maybe)

Read somewhere that phase 2 or phase 3 of iSKY deployment will be to have xbox 360 and PS3 also have access to iSKY in their respective dashboards.

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#385605 28-Sep-2010 19:07

cws82us:
graemeh:
cws82us: Did Alcatel do telecom network and failed big time. will this happen to isky too?

Are you serious? The XT network you are thinking of is a mobile network, the CDN for sky is a fixed line data network. Two completely different technologies.

Alcatel also manage Telecom's data network (and built a lot of it) and you don't see that breaking down much.

I talking about the company Alcatel. How Alcatel Build xt network and how there was alot of outages. it can happen with isky the same thing but the server based

The company is the same. The technology is different. You probably don't know why/how the XT outages happened, so I wouldn't worry on that if I were you.

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#385725 29-Sep-2010 08:56

Is there anything stopping residential sky owners selling their isky logins for temporary (or permanent) 1 off events such as the rugby on trademe etc, while they watch regular broadcasted sky. (Apart from the fact it would breach all terms and conditions set out in the usage policy from sky, which I doubt will stop anyone) If you got enough event's lined up in a month and for say $5-$10 a pop you could quite easily pay for your subscription or at least heavily subsidise it.
I don't have sky and don't really want it, but would happily pay $5-$10 to watch F1 or International rugby, even pay $20-$30 per month to have full time access to isky is another option.

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#385727 29-Sep-2010 09:02

langi27: Is there anything stopping residential sky owners selling their isky logins for temporary (or permanent) 1 off events such as the rugby on trademe etc, while they watch regular broadcasted sky. (Apart from the fact it would breach all terms and conditions set out in the usage policy from sky, which I doubt will stop anyone) If you got enough event's lined up in a month and for say $5-$10 a pop you could quite easily pay for your subscription or at least heavily subsidise it.
I don't have sky and don't really want it, but would happily pay $5-$10 to watch F1 or International rugby, even pay $20-$30 per month to have full time access to isky is another option.

Probably some sort of certificate is generated and downloaded to your PC. Once you have it you can't easily copy/move it around the place. Thus tying your iSky login to a single PC.

We are of course speculating on something where zero details have been provided. Which is sorta pointless IMHO.

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#385737 29-Sep-2010 09:22

muppet:
langi27: Is there anything stopping residential sky owners selling their isky logins for temporary (or permanent) 1 off events such as the rugby on trademe etc, while they watch regular broadcasted sky. (Apart from the fact it would breach all terms and conditions set out in the usage policy from sky, which I doubt will stop anyone) If you got enough event's lined up in a month and for say $5-$10 a pop you could quite easily pay for your subscription or at least heavily subsidise it.
I don't have sky and don't really want it, but would happily pay $5-$10 to watch F1 or International rugby, even pay $20-$30 per month to have full time access to isky is another option.

Probably some sort of certificate is generated and downloaded to your PC. Once you have it you can't easily copy/move it around the place. Thus tying your iSky login to a single PC.

We are of course speculating on something where zero details have been provided. Which is sorta pointless IMHO.

It will be very interesting to see how they handle this! I'm quite sure they will employ some software that looks for unusual patterns of IP connecting to a single account - although I'm sure they are not the first pay broadcaster to offer this kind of service. In the words of TCL - there will be no free lunch - subscibers will probably need to pay an additional subscription for the service - bit like multi room. I mean really - if they offered free iSky access - why would anyone have multiroom? It would be cheaper to either switch ISPs to one offering unmetered access - or have two ISPs - one dedicated to iSky. Okay the content is unlikely to be HD but you could easily have 4 or 5 outlets to watch iSky!

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#385739 29-Sep-2010 09:25

You've answered your own question there langi27.

I have read that you will only be able to use the login from one PC at a time. This makes me think that Sky will be tracking where and when the login is used.

Logins from different PCs from different IP addresses on a regular basis are likely to set off alarm bells and I suspect that would be the end of your isky access.

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#385740 29-Sep-2010 09:25

Everyone should try having a look at Sky player from the UK. As my family in the UK still has a Sky subscription, I use a VPN to access the web based service, desktop based service and the WMC plugin. UK Sky has something like 200 channels to choose from, but sky player has access to only a select few. Most are not in HD either. I would expect the system to operate in a similar manner to the UK version.

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#385751 29-Sep-2010 09:50

From previous comments if they deliver this product to PS3 and xbox's later down the track its fair to assume that more than 1 computer could access the online content so long as it's kept single user per account regardless of location.

Any extra subscription fee's would be minimal if at anything at all, it would be a small minority that would pay extra for this service, sky already charges a premium for their service and additional for HD content and MySky rental.
I'd wager a bet that there are many people who would like to watch sky but can't afford it, but could afford $20-$30 per month to watch it online, if they were to strike an arrangement with friend or neighbor who has a full subscription.

You also have to wonder whether sky would consider selling the online content outright without satellite subscription. The quality of service will be the deciding factor me thinks.

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#385810 29-Sep-2010 12:21

From here

http://www.throng.co.nz/sky/sky-confirms-isp-partners-new-online-tv-service-isky

"SKY Television is pleased to confirm that it has partnered with Vodafone, Orcon, Slingshot, Woosh, Xnet and Farmside to create un-metered broadband plans for a new online TV service, iSKY."

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#385819 29-Sep-2010 12:34

Also just received from Vodafone:

SKY, on TV, PC, or Mobile…only on Vodafone

Vodafone is delighted to partner with SKY to launch iSKY which allows customers to stream SKY TV over the internet at home at no additional cost.

Customers will not have to worry about how much of their fixed-line broadband bundle they are using, as iSKY traffic will not be counted towards their plan.

Vodafone’s GM of Total Communications, Justin Caswell, says Vodafone and SKY TV have a strong working relationship.

“In 2006 Vodafone brought SKY Mobile TV to the mobile, in 2009 we brought FREE MY SKY HDi upgrades to our Ideal and Ultimate broadband customers. Now, with iSKY, customers have the freedom to chose how they want to consume media, with the added bonus of data not being counted against their fixed-line broadband data allowance at home”.

iSKY will be available to all Vodafone residential broadband customers later this year.

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#385820 29-Sep-2010 12:35

Good news for me. Have 4 VF broadband connections at 4 different premises. iSky ftw!!

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