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Topic # 189104 17-Dec-2015 07:54
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Thanks to the folks at MyRepublic the NZGC eSports Tournament will be shown live on TV this Saturday.
Will be interesting to see how slick the teams (and coverage) are compared to overseas.  

And with Bullfrog Moore appointed by EA Sports to pursue eSports, it'll be interesting to see how more of the eSports world develops.

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  Reply # 1452026 17-Dec-2015 08:02
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Sadly a very large chunk of Lol fans probably don't have sky sports.

Why on earth wouldn't they show it on twitch (you know, the place where esports actually exists and has a following) so anybody can see it?



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  Reply # 1452049 17-Dec-2015 08:23
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I think its more sad that a media person has to do the work to get a competitive gaming tournament off the ground.  
And if getting it on Sky recoups some costs or, god forbid, makes some money to justify doing it again in the future then thats gotta bet better than nothing or throwing money away via Twitch.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1452172 17-Dec-2015 10:46
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NonprayingMantis: Sadly a very large chunk of Lol fans probably don't have sky sports.

Why on earth wouldn't they show it on twitch (you know, the place where esports actually exists and has a following) so anybody can see it?


Last I heard it was open to basic and no need for sports.

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  Reply # 1452223 17-Dec-2015 11:44
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ockel: I think its more sad that a media person has to do the work to get a competitive gaming tournament off the ground.  
And if getting it on Sky recoups some costs or, god forbid, makes some money to justify doing it again in the future then thats gotta bet better than nothing or throwing money away via Twitch.


we've had plenty of decent gaming tournaments in NZ on this sort of scale. the reason they aren't broadcast on Tv is because it makes no sense to do it when we have a perfectly good medium for broadcasting (twitch)

e.g. Digital Nationz had one at their last event with something like a $10k prize pool - and not just for LoL, it was accross LoL, Dota, CoD and some others too.  I remember watching it live at DNZ on the big screen. It as broadcast on twitch too. great fun.

Armageddon also had some decent tournaments in October - I watched the hearthstone one. Not sure if it was broadcast on twitch. Probably was.

I also doubt Sky have paid any money for the 'rights' to show this. More likely the other way around where MyRepublic have spent a bunch of money persuading sky to create the channel to show the tournament and ironically this will make it LESS accessible to LoL fans than if it were simply put on Twitch for free.
If Myrepublic wanted to do gaming fans a favour, they should have put it on twitch, and then spent that money on paying some good players (the players fans actually want to watch) to come from overseas to compete


Sadly this decision will likely snuff out esports scene in NZ before it's able to get started because almost nobody will watch the Sky popup channel and Sky will probably never do it again. Every potential investor in esports will look at this absolute failure and be put off from doing anything.

Makes me annoyed because I love esports, and really want it to succeed, but you have to walk before you can run and doing this actually makes it harder to succeed in the future.






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  Reply # 1452235 17-Dec-2015 12:03
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NonprayingMantis: Sadly a very large chunk of Lol fans probably don't have sky sports.

Why on earth wouldn't they show it on twitch (you know, the place where esports actually exists and has a following) so anybody can see it?


Last I heard it was open to basic and no need for sports.


that's better.  But even so, I would think most LoL fans probably don't even have Sky basic.

Nobody I know under 25 has Sky.  they all use a combination of Netflix, Youtube, and 'other' sources for content.




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  Reply # 1452251 17-Dec-2015 12:21
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NonprayingMantis:
ockel: I think its more sad that a media person has to do the work to get a competitive gaming tournament off the ground.  
And if getting it on Sky recoups some costs or, god forbid, makes some money to justify doing it again in the future then thats gotta bet better than nothing or throwing money away via Twitch.


we've had plenty of decent gaming tournaments in NZ on this sort of scale. the reason they aren't broadcast on Tv is because it makes no sense to do it when we have a perfectly good medium for broadcasting (twitch)

e.g. Digital Nationz had one at their last event with something like a $10k prize pool - and not just for LoL, it was accross LoL, Dota, CoD and some others too.  I remember watching it live at DNZ on the big screen. It as broadcast on twitch too. great fun.

Armageddon also had some decent tournaments in October - I watched the hearthstone one. Not sure if it was broadcast on twitch. Probably was.

I also doubt Sky have paid any money for the 'rights' to show this. More likely the other way around where MyRepublic have spent a bunch of money persuading sky to create the channel to show the tournament and ironically this will make it LESS accessible to LoL fans than if it were simply put on Twitch for free.
If Myrepublic wanted to do gaming fans a favour, they should have put it on twitch, and then spent that money on paying some good players (the players fans actually want to watch) to come from overseas to compete


Sadly this decision will likely snuff out esports scene in NZ before it's able to get started because almost nobody will watch the Sky popup channel and Sky will probably never do it again. Every potential investor in esports will look at this absolute failure and be put off from doing anything.

Makes me annoyed because I love esports, and really want it to succeed, but you have to walk before you can run and doing this actually makes it harder to succeed in the future.




Sounds like it would have been an absolute sitter for TVNZ to mirror what the Beeb did then?  Hit the target demo with streaming via TVNZ's live streaming and increase the potential audience by putting on broadcast tv (although the Beeb didnt do the latter).
I'd find it hard to believe that it wasnt shopped to them too.

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  Reply # 1452254 17-Dec-2015 12:32
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ockel:
NonprayingMantis:
ockel: I think its more sad that a media person has to do the work to get a competitive gaming tournament off the ground.  
And if getting it on Sky recoups some costs or, god forbid, makes some money to justify doing it again in the future then thats gotta bet better than nothing or throwing money away via Twitch.


we've had plenty of decent gaming tournaments in NZ on this sort of scale. the reason they aren't broadcast on Tv is because it makes no sense to do it when we have a perfectly good medium for broadcasting (twitch)

e.g. Digital Nationz had one at their last event with something like a $10k prize pool - and not just for LoL, it was accross LoL, Dota, CoD and some others too.  I remember watching it live at DNZ on the big screen. It as broadcast on twitch too. great fun.

Armageddon also had some decent tournaments in October - I watched the hearthstone one. Not sure if it was broadcast on twitch. Probably was.

I also doubt Sky have paid any money for the 'rights' to show this. More likely the other way around where MyRepublic have spent a bunch of money persuading sky to create the channel to show the tournament and ironically this will make it LESS accessible to LoL fans than if it were simply put on Twitch for free.
If Myrepublic wanted to do gaming fans a favour, they should have put it on twitch, and then spent that money on paying some good players (the players fans actually want to watch) to come from overseas to compete


Sadly this decision will likely snuff out esports scene in NZ before it's able to get started because almost nobody will watch the Sky popup channel and Sky will probably never do it again. Every potential investor in esports will look at this absolute failure and be put off from doing anything.

Makes me annoyed because I love esports, and really want it to succeed, but you have to walk before you can run and doing this actually makes it harder to succeed in the future.




Sounds like it would have been an absolute sitter for TVNZ to mirror what the Beeb did then?  Hit the target demo with streaming via TVNZ's live streaming and increase the potential audience by putting on broadcast tv (although the Beeb didnt do the latter).
I'd find it hard to believe that it wasnt shopped to them too.


yep, digital delivery should be the default,  with 'traditional broadcast' on the side as a way to reach a more traditional audience who might not otherwise bother.

but doing traditional broadcast at the expense of doing digital makes absolutely no sense, and I can't believe anybody who knew even the smallest amount about esports would have thought it was good idea.

to me it sounds like some marketing manager (whether Myrepublic or Sky) has said: 

"hey, I heard gaming was quite popular with the kids these days. lets put it on TV"

but because they know nothing about their target market and aren't actually into gaming themselves, they are going about it in completely the wrong way.

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  Reply # 1452273 17-Dec-2015 13:38
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Stoked to see on Sky and will watch. Nice to see them promote something not rugby. 

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  Reply # 1452277 17-Dec-2015 13:44
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Sky would have been "we are not relevant to anyone under 30 that plays games! how can we fix that?" and someone would have been "Lets put gaming on our dated low quality broadcast platform so we are relevant" and then they would have congratulated themselves.




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  Reply # 1452287 17-Dec-2015 13:54
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The average age of gamers in the US is now 35 (unfortunately a few years ago now for me) its probably similar in NZ. Now you can get into debates on the average age of those playing these types of games and its probably lower than that but what this does do is open up the eyes of many of the older amongst us around online gaming. I do a bit, having just got fibre after slow ADSL2+ speeds (long way from an exchange) I will probably start doing a lot more gaming online.

What should be happening is that this is screened on both twitch (which I have watched a few times but cant really be bothered to most of the time) so those without Sky can see it and for those like me with Sky we can watch through a medium that works well for us. The issue for gaming is how does it expand the audience, only on Sky doesn't suit many of those that follow eGaming closely which is not the thing to do. What it does however is open up eGaming to an audience that maybe isn't that familiar with it (the right thing to do)...which is not to say everyone on Sky will watch it, but some will. Personally being on Sky works for me and my young kids will probably watch some of it with me, but it does mean a lot of its core existing audience will miss out. Both should be catered for.

Personally I would pay a little more for Sky a month for 1-2 dedicated eGaming channels.

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  Reply # 1452301 17-Dec-2015 14:19
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That's weird, because last I heard you needed a sky sports subscription in order to watch this channel (I think Apog or Myrepublic commented on someone's Facebook post when the news first came out - can't find the post though sorry!).

I think because it's being broadcasted on Sky, the only way to stream this on Twitch would be with delayed viewing. Think live on Sky, delayed on Prime kind of situation.

Feels a bit like one step backwards if the above is the case but I'm still happy that esports is getting more coverage than it has in the past.




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  Reply # 1452302 17-Dec-2015 14:22
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Flickky: That's weird, because last I heard you needed a sky sports subscription in order to watch this channel (I think Apog or Myrepublic commented on someone's Facebook post when the news first came out - can't find the post though sorry!).

I think because it's being broadcasted on Sky, the only way to stream this on Twitch would be with delayed viewing. Think live on Sky, delayed on Prime kind of situation.

Feels a bit like one step backwards if the above is the case but I'm still happy that esports is getting more coverage than it has in the past.


Unless its changed since the media release in November (see below) and the pop-up channel says all Sky subscribers.

INAUGRAL MYREPUBLIC NZGC ESPORTS TOURNAMENT TO SCREEN LIVE ON SKY 11 November 2015

Continuing the tradition of bringing new and alternative events to New Zealand television screens, SKY can confirm the inaugural MyRepublic NZGC eSports Tournament will screen LIVE on a SKY POP-UP channel on Saturday 19 December, 2015, available to all SKY domestic customers with the Basic package.

Using the online game League of Legends, the world’s largest online gaming franchise, six teams of five players will meet at Flametree Studios in Parnell, Auckland, to play competitive matches for the MyRepublic NZGC Trophy.  All SKY customers with the Basic package will be able to view the games and players, and hear the excitement of the venue and commentary. There will also be expert panellists and “how to” demonstrations. 

“Commitment to training and the desire to improve skills is a key attribute for any competitive pursuit. eSports certainly requires dedication for participants to make full use of their talents, along with teamwork, and we’re excited about bringing coverage of this fast growing genre to SKY customers,” said Richard Last, Director of Sport at SKY Television.

NZGC President Dan Wrightson describes the gaming action as a combination of Lord of the Rings and paintball at a darts tournament.  “It’s fast strategic action. The local gaming community is spawning its own stars and this event being broadcast on SKY gives them a stage to show how good they are, and how incredible eSports is to watch and play,” said Wrightson.

Five teams of New Zealand’s best gamers have already been invited to compete, with the final wild-card entry to be found at a tournament on 6 December.  More information will be released closer to the time.

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  Reply # 1452337 17-Dec-2015 14:55
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Will it be in HD or will it be like twitch on low like the rest of skys SD muck?




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  Reply # 1452362 17-Dec-2015 15:40
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richms: Will it be in HD or will it be like twitch on low like the rest of skys SD muck?


You mean like trying to watch TVNZ OnDemand or 3Now?  

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  Reply # 1452380 17-Dec-2015 16:13
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richms: Will it be in HD or will it be like twitch on low like the rest of skys SD muck?


You mean like trying to watch TVNZ OnDemand or 3Now?  


I don't watch those for that reason.

Considering that game content needs high bitrate to even see what I'd going on compared to soft slow moving movies I wonder how it will survive sky's excessive compression and down rezing.




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