Are There Any Sky Installers Here?

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#204737 15-Oct-2016 08:02

Im not sure there are from posts Ive read re Sky

If there is, my house is celcrete, concrete tile roof, the bit that juts out where living room is, is not accessible inside the roof. So that means the dish is on the bargeboard, and conduit down the wall and to go through the exterior wall. My concern is having excess and visible conduit, and how can they go through the wall and ensure my power and ethernet and coax will be, isn't damaged?

TV and these connectors are between the windows

Excuse photo exposure, unable to move the Sun...

Ideally, conduit down the wall where or behind the fence post, under the bottom eave, and pop up the wall between the windows, so its less visible.

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#1651486 15-Oct-2016 09:50

If there is already coax to location you can use a diplexer at both ends and carry both UHF and L Band over the single run.

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#1651488 15-Oct-2016 10:00

Conduit? All the jobs I've seen from sky installer guys just have the bare coax running down walls or drain pipes and the like.

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#1651495 15-Oct-2016 10:57

If you want a neat professional installation and it wasnt allowed for when the house was built then call your own installer rather than use the free one that sky do.

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#1652113 17-Oct-2016 09:09

Sky installers are provided with diplexers for jobs like this where you have a coax already in place - they will combine the satellite signal with your existing aerial feed to the lounge TV location and split it back out again at the TV end

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#1652127 17-Oct-2016 09:53

Does the use of a diplexer cause any degradation of the satellite feed or the UHF feed?

The house has coax in every bedroom and every living room, and a booster in the patch panel. The UHF aerial, where I gather the Sky dish would need to sit near to access the coax is up on the top floor bargeboard, over the concrete tile roof, so unsure how easy that is to access. I'll take a pic later of the aerial location and the patch panel. I am tempted to get a non Sky installer to do a quick onsite check and use them.

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#1652155 17-Oct-2016 10:38

The amp in your panel is unlikely to pass the power required for the dish to work, but the cabling can probably be reconfigured to make it work.

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#1652159 17-Oct-2016 10:49

Dish doesn't have to be anywhere near antenna. Coax can be run back to patch panel area completely bi-passing any antenna and amp.

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#1652170 17-Oct-2016 11:03

Spyware:

Dish doesn't have to be anywhere near antenna. Coax can be run back to patch panel area completely bi-passing any antenna and amp.

It does if they want to use the same Coax from roof to Patch Panel (to avoid running coax down the outside of the house, which is what the OP is worried about).

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#1652372 17-Oct-2016 15:05

I have a result. I called a pro installer company as Richms suggested, they came out this avo. The patch panel is an option but the dish has to be on the top storey, which is an issue OSH installation wise, and access for any repairs. He said that if the dish goes on the bargeboard as per my photo, they can lift some concrete tiles to access the wall cavity and then access the plugs on that wall. One of them has one ethernet and oddly, 4 coax. One used by Freeview

Plus they are a Sky contractor so I will call the special deal number tonight, and ask that they use this company, they gave me their contractor number, and also the guys employee number.

Nice to ask a question, get advice from here and a very helpful installer guy.

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#1652956 18-Oct-2016 15:10

A sky installer that doesn't come pre-armed only with cable ties and silicon, snap that guy up for sure

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#1653065 18-Oct-2016 16:45

sen8or:
A sky installer that doesn't come pre-armed only with cable ties and silicon, snap that guy up for sure

I'm sure they can't be branded. Bit like fibre guys, Some great some meh.
A while back I removed the dish for painting and it didn't work when I put it back so I paid the $99

The guy said why don't we put it over there on the roof? Great I said. Same cost so he did that and re ran the coax.
He could have just aligned it and left

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#1661584 31-Oct-2016 17:11

Here is how my experience went. I was concerned about how they will get the cables into the house, given its celcrete exterior and concrete tile roof

I called a third party pro installer company, they do aerials, satellite, audio. The guy came out for a quick look. he said no problem, we should do this. he explained why going through the patch panel wont be great as the dish needs to go where there is access, which is second floor, which is an issue for repairs. He also said that third party install is MY problem. If I have a reception issue, its on me to sort it out. The company is also a contractor, so they said, call Sky and arrange it, here is our company number, here is my employee number. Days later, it was installed perfect. Dish is mounted in the board inside gutter, so thats tidy. He ran the cable down the wall after removing some tiles, to an existing plug that has 4 coax and one ethernet, and used a spare coax. Perfect. As its now by a Sky installer via my preference, there is no issue with having dish issues, thats covered under Sky as BAU.

Unsure if I can post the company name, is that ok? Or is that a promotion and against the FUG?

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#1661621 31-Oct-2016 18:31

The reason for four coax cables used to be so you could split sky to the rest of the house.

1) Sky dish.
2) Sky out, back to the splitter.
3) Sky back to the TV from the splitter.
4) Freeview.

Obviously this is very outdated now. But house sparkies aren't known for doing technical things the best way.

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#1661741 31-Oct-2016 21:35

andrewNZ: The reason for four coax cables used to be so you could split sky to the rest of the house.

1) Sky dish.
2) Sky out, back to the splitter.
3) Sky back to the TV from the splitter.
4) Freeview.

Obviously this is very outdated now. But house sparkies aren't known for doing technical things the best way.

The house is 5yo, they never had Sky. Streaming dominated. But interesting. How would the rest of the house get Sky? Other Sky boxes, or some other device with coax input?

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#1661815 1-Nov-2016 00:40

tdgeek:

andrewNZ: The reason for four coax cables used to be so you could split sky to the rest of the house.

1) Sky dish.
2) Sky out, back to the splitter.
3) Sky back to the TV from the splitter.
4) Freeview.

Obviously this is very outdated now. But house sparkies aren't known for doing technical things the best way.

The house is 5yo, they never had Sky. Streaming dominated. But interesting. How would the rest of the house get Sky? Other Sky boxes, or some other device with coax input?

RF out from the sky box, to a splitter (often with no filtering or amplification) and then out to the other TVs. Fine in the 1980s for TVs back then, and some electricians have not left the era for RF or phone installs.

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