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MrCritical

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#303420 8-Feb-2023 20:43
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What is the power consumption in watts of the new sky box during recording, and during standby?

 

Can this new device be driven directly from 12V DC, as in motor home 12v supply?

 

 

 

 


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tkr001
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  #3033903 9-Feb-2023 12:05
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Don't know the power draw but can't imagine its very large. Why not just use an inverter?




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  #3033913 9-Feb-2023 12:38
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tkr001:

 

Why not just use an inverter?



Inverters introduce unnecessary losses from converting from 12vdc to 230vac and then using the devices power supply to convert back to 12vdc (if that's what it actually takes).

A lot of equipment can have the AC-DC power supply bypassed entirely and fed directly with the lower DC voltage that it actually requires. It's a little bit hacky, but it works fine as long as there is a good quality power supply feeding everything.


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  #3034260 10-Feb-2023 00:01
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There are quite a few set top boxes out there with stupidly large power use, both when operating and in standby.  So it is a good question to ask.  It is not too difficult to make boxes low power these days, but it does take a little effort.  For a box that may eventually wind up having 100,000 or more running in the country, it would be a good idea not to make it use too much.  If it draws 5 watts on standby then that would be 500 kW the electricity grid would have to provide.  Preferably, STBs should draw less than 0.1 W on standby.  Ideally, less than 10 mW, and it is actually not too difficult to do that unless there is a hard drive inside.




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  #3034289 10-Feb-2023 07:53
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I have no idea re Sky Box but I suspect it is not much.

We have umpteen boxes in our motothome. None ever remain in standby mode. Either on or off.
Examples - averages:
Dish TV
A2 12V 4 tuner 500gb SSD 10W.
SmartVU SV11 5V 5W
SmartVU+ A7070 Twin tuners - 12V 8W

MIBox S 5.2V 4W
Chromecast with Google TV 5V 5W

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  #3034296 10-Feb-2023 08:16
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I use the Sky box for recording, and access to sports channels. The problem with the old sky box is that it takes an age to re-tune itself after being powered down, and it consumes ~ 35W when recording in standby mode. Because of its power consumption it spends most of its time off, but it would be nice to have a device that is as capable as the Sky box is, at setting and recording programs, but consuming say 20% of the power of the current box, and with the ability to 'boot' up and tune in promptly.


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  #3034321 10-Feb-2023 09:13
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fe31nz:

 

For a box that may eventually wind up having 100,000 or more running in the country, it would be a good idea not to make it use too much.

 

 

I used to work for Sky UK. The set top box designers did a presentation about the latest box once, and mentioned they were so conscious of this they wouldn't put another LED indicator on the front of the box without a really good justification. I forget the exact numbers of installed boxes, but it was the first time I had really thought about multiplicative effect of a seemingly insignificant power use; the cumulative power used was astonishing to me.


 
 
 
 

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  #3034326 10-Feb-2023 09:22
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spmiller:

 

fe31nz:

 

For a box that may eventually wind up having 100,000 or more running in the country, it would be a good idea not to make it use too much.

 

 

I used to work for Sky UK. The set top box designers did a presentation about the latest box once, and mentioned they were so conscious of this they wouldn't put another LED indicator on the front of the box without a really good justification. I forget the exact numbers of installed boxes, but it was the first time I had really thought about multiplicative effect of a seemingly insignificant power use; the cumulative power used was astonishing to me.

 



By that reasoning, a power company would be incentivised give us devices that use MORE power so they make more income?

 

So if a power company starts offering a pay TV service with a set top box - we should definitely keep a close eye on their offering.
(Lightbulb moment). Is THAT why the power companies offer a 'free TV' with its contracts? 

 

 


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  #3036860 15-Feb-2023 10:01
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OK, so no one seems to have an answer to that query. How about this. Is the current sky box capable of being powered directly by 12v DC?


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  #3036953 15-Feb-2023 11:00
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Have you asked Sky directly? They should be able to give you an answer, and likely (if the answer is yes) supply any necessary connectors as well.


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