Who is telling the Truth about CDMA!!!

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CampbellD

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#1822 2-Jul-2004 17:28

Hey All,

I have been to recently a Vodafone and Telecom seminar regarding the future of there 3G and high speed networks

The problem i have is that they both say the same thing with the only exception it is the competition that will have to change - - - Confused ....

Ok Here is the deal -

Telecom - when they changed from an 025 to 027 service the new network was change to allow for future growth in terms of high speed data and the emergence of 3G

Vodafone - There network has already need change to allow for high speed and 3G

Where i get confused with is this - - - Each of them are saying the competition will have to designed entirely new network to allow for greater than 153K mobile data speeds and 3G .

Can someone please enlighten me with the actually structure of what each is doing and possibel Website (which is 3rd party and independant) of where the logical steps are for CDMA

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Damon Campbell damon@southlanddc.govt.nz

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#7003 2-Jul-2004 17:53

Confusing... And of course they both claim to hold the truth. You'll have to see for yourself, but it seems that Telecom NZ will have an easier job to deploy CDMA2000 EV-DO, because lots of the infrastructure seem to be in place. Vodafone will have to deploy more cell sites, to enhance the coverage, because it seems that 3GSM (WCDMA) has a shorter range.

Have a look on this thread, then this one for good insights. And this one started as a branch of another thread.

wirelessluva

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#7053 5-Jul-2004 19:27

Looking at the costs each have announced ie Telecom $40mill & Voda several hundred million , would give a good idea of the pain involved

CampbellD

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#7056 5-Jul-2004 20:24

I understand the investiment - but the 400M Voda at proposing is over 10 years - how long way Telecoms for - If it was ten years - i'd hate to be a vodafone shareholder.

Talk about backtrack.....

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#7065 6-Jul-2004 11:53

Telecom customers will not have to change their phone number either.

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#7068 6-Jul-2004 12:56

This shouldn't be a problem. The drive to move Telecom users from their TDMA network (025) to the newer CDMA network (027) was already in place since the beginning, a few years ago, and the G027 campaign is always active. Users who haven't moved to 027 yet are probably using older phones, on prepay. As Jama posted, users on CDMA (027) will not have to change number, only handsets.

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#7072 6-Jul-2004 21:42

Telecom's big problem is that they have to eventually close down the AMPS/DAMPS network to release spectrum to CDMA. The problem they face is convincing the last few hundred thousand to switch, Telecom have hundreds of thousands of customer spending very little, ie under $10 per month - they can't afford to give them a few phone for free now as they never use it enough to get a return. They are also going to face an issue in 2 or so years time when they do decide to close down the 025 network and those same people are going to expect a free phone to replace theie old one.

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#7076 6-Jul-2004 22:20

Surely there must be some overseas examples of this happening?

a phone company switching network type or changing something meaning that customers have had to change their numbers slightly

CampbellD

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#7078 6-Jul-2004 22:40

Hey All,

What i was wanting to get a handle on was the the different networks were and what they were actually going. ie was telecom or vodafone going to have to change their infrastructure to support the higher speed in the network.

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#7081 6-Jul-2004 23:02

This was discussed on the second post. Telecom has done some work already by implementing their CDMA 1xRTT network, which can be easily adapted to EV-DO (Evolution Data Only).

Vodafone OTOH needs to deploy more cell sites and adapt the technology in most of the current ones to allow for 3GSM (W-CDMA) to be deployed.

This explains how Vodafone plans to spend $200 million, and Telecom wil ldo with $40 million. Of course we don't know exactly if this amount includes infrastructure, billing, rating, content management, service agreements, customer services, handset testing, etc, etc...