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#271720 24-May-2020 16:14
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A family member has quite a lot of digitised photos - about 7,000 images - photographed or scanned from actual physical photograph albums and loaded into "Photomyne" (www.photomyne.com). The collection was started in the early 1950s and runs up to very recently. It includes earlier pictures and covers a family history from the late 1920s.

 

The family historian is beginning to wonder if Photomyne is a good long-term bet.

 

Her main concerns are:

 

  • firstly that there are no controls over access - if you give someone the PIN to unlock the Album, they have full access, no obvious way give read-only access, for example; and
  • secondly she needs a way to preserve this collection if, say, Photomyne goes bust, and to provide duplicate copies for several family members scattered around the world - it wouldn't be a problem is these are just copied onto USB sticks and sent out, this is a static archive; and
  • thirdly a slightly sophisticated search mechanism would be nice. At the moment, the virtual albums simply reflect the ~60 physical books, with all the identified people and some place / occasion remarks put into the Photomyne 'Comments'. Not so easy to find things

Oh, this does not have to be free, though inexpensive is nice - it looks like Photomyne costs about $US19.99/year plus $US2/month for cloudy storage, so anything like that is obviously doable.

 

 

 

Ideas, please?


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  #2490596 24-May-2020 17:55
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Do you mean something offline like Piwigo?




  #2490608 24-May-2020 18:27
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nedkelly:

 

Do you mean something offline like Piwigo?

 

 

To be clear, Piwigo is a web-based solution so it is more or less an online option. I myself use Piwigo on a public facing web server using its access control functions to limit access to certain albums. I'm happy to concede it can be set up on a private server not exposed to the Internet--although that would make sharing difficult which the OP would need to consider if that is a requirement. My other concern is that Piwigo requires quite a bit of knowhow to set up and maintain, and I'm not sure OP is looking for a complex solution.

 

Another possible option could be SmugMug. Web based, no hassle set up/maintenance and they seem to have the functions OPs is after. They acquired Flickr some time ago so they seem to be serious about their business.


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  #2490691 24-May-2020 20:38
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Google photos? Sharing controls are good, face recognition would help with searching, and I think you can download everything if you need



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  #2490775 24-May-2020 22:28
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Just remember, if you are using the free version of Google Photos, the image quality is reduced for digital images.

 

 





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  #2490865 25-May-2020 08:57
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It’s a misleading disclaimer that Google provide for Photos storage. Their file reduction kicks in at 16MP for photos - larger images are reduced to 16MP - and 1080px for video. Google aren’t yet converting outdated .jpg format photos & .any format movies to .webp & .webm, but I’m sure it’s coming. The size reduction without visible loss of quality is amazing - well above 50%. Websites converting from .jpg to .webp are getting faster page speeds with higher quality images.

You can manipulate a bunch of Google accounts for endless free storage by setting up a central account that gets all photos shared to it by your other accounts. Or pay the $2.99/month for 100GB of original format storage.




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  #2490868 25-May-2020 09:13
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This is probably a timely reminder for me. I use Flickr Pro or whatever it's called and Google Photos. But I'm beginning to think that relying on my memory for where photos are in Google isn't a great idea... It's pretty good if you look for 'Yellow Car' though. 


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  #2490894 25-May-2020 09:44
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You can manipulate a bunch of Google accounts for endless free storage by setting up a central account that gets all photos shared to it by your other accounts. Or pay the $2.99/month for 100GB of original format storage.

 

Well i'll be, learn something every day. Must remember this one.





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  #2490912 25-May-2020 10:14
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I self host using nextcloud and share folders with Family that way...

 

They can either access via a browser (with an account I setup) or have a client sync the files to their PC (which provides extra "backup - yes it all syncs but if main server goes down lots of copies are about)..

 

 

 

Works great, and also lets people add their own photos to share as well (if permissions are enabled to have others edit content.





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  #2490991 25-May-2020 12:30
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1024kb: It’s a misleading disclaimer that Google provide for Photos storage. Their file reduction kicks in at 16MP for photos - larger images are reduced to 16MP - and 1080px for video. Google aren’t yet converting outdated .jpg format photos & .any format movies to .webp & .webm, but I’m sure it’s coming. The size reduction without visible loss of quality is amazing - well above 50%. Websites converting from .jpg to .webp are getting faster page speeds with higher quality images.

 

My worry about Google is not what they are doing today (which I admit doesn't seem too bad), but rather what they might do tomorrow. If you're happy with sudden reductions in quality at an arbitrary point in the future then Google Photos is probably a good compromise. But if you're keen to keep the original at any cost then avoid. Storage is so cheap (cents per GB if you store it in the right places) that it's amost not worth risking trusting Google won't stuff it up in the future.


  #2491044 25-May-2020 13:39
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Google product changes are usually announced with a long lead-in period, they don't want class-action court cases powered by changes in services that they provide for free. The Picasa / G+ followed by G+ / Google Photos transitions had 6 months or more lead time.

You can download your content from Google by photo, date, album, random selection, location, person or entire collection easily. Getting it back & under your control is not difficult.

As a free online storage / presentation product with a bunch of automated, user-friendly features, I don't know of another that's any better. Really, I don't. Granular shared albums, automatically shared albums by person, location, time - there's a ton of AI powered features on offer.

If the argument comes down to Google not providing enough for free, $3/ month sorts that out - to 100GB anyway. If $3 isn't an investment you're prepared to make, you probably don't care enough about your photos.

Let's not forget, .jpg is an elderly & outdated format. File size reduction when converted to .webp or Apple's HEIC format does not necessarily mean loss of quality, not at all. Here's a quick comparison:
https://insanelab.com/blog/web-development/webp-web-design-vs-jpeg-gif-png/

If you're worried about the possibility of a free product/service changing in the future, I'd say you're probably right, that's the nature of technology. Paid services change too.




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  #2492412 27-May-2020 00:38
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PolicyGuy:

 

... has quite a lot of digitised photos - about 7,000 images ...

 

Her main concerns are:

 

  • firstly that there are no controls over access ...
  • secondly she needs a way to preserve this collection ...
  • thirdly a slightly sophisticated search mechanism would be nice. ...

 

Meh, ±7000 is manageable. If you are interested in using Google Photos for collection & sharing, here are a few pointers

 

     

  1. See "Sharing an album" below
  2. Buy a NAS device for home with multiple disks for redundancy. Some NAS devices even has replication to same brand devices in other trusted homes. Or you can replicate / backup to the cloud
  3. See "Search by ..." below

 

 





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