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  #2548526 24-Aug-2020 09:49
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Whoops, my apologies.

 

 




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  #2548732 24-Aug-2020 14:27
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https://www.bunnings.co.nz/irwin-speedbor-blue-groove-spade-bit-22mm-x-160mm_p0103012

 

 

 

Is this a reasonable "bit" to buy if I was to be drilling 22mm holes for the @blackjack17 recommended solution?

 

 

 

Also DIY dumb question, how do I line up where the magnet goes relative to the jamb magnet? 


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  #2548738 24-Aug-2020 14:34
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Yep that would work.

 

Anything will do, you will only be using it a couple of times.  I would just go for the cheapest one available. In fact I would probably go for a set so that if I needed to drill a hole in the future I would have the tools.  Sets tend to be cheaper than individual ones.

 

Something like this

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/irwin-6-piece-universal-spade-bit-set-in-plastic-pouch_p0355931







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  #2548742 24-Aug-2020 14:38
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networkn:

 

 

 

Also DIY dumb question, how do I line up where the magnet goes relative to the jamb magnet? 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't need to be perfect.  

 

You put one in and then make a mark with a thin pencil to line it up.





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  #2548771 24-Aug-2020 15:00
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As above ^^

 

Speedbor are a relatively premium brand. Any kind of spade bit set will likely be fine for the few holes you will need to drill.

 

In terms of lining things up, I would close the door and make a (small, pencil) vertical mark across the door and the architrave. You can then transfer that vertical mark on to the horizontal faces on the top of the door and bottom of the door top frame using a square or ruler.

 

Close the door tight and mark where it stops on the top frame (along the face of the door). Half the distance between that mark and the door stops should be the mid point of the door. 

 

Measure along your first lines to halfway. On the door frame, add about 2mm towards the door stop. On the door, add about 2mm away from the door stop. This should give you about a 4mm offset between the door and frame - this is to help the magnets pull the door into the door stops.

 

In summary, as you look at the door with it opening towards you, the magnets should be in light left and right, but forwards and backwards the top magnet should be slightly further away from you than the door magnet.


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  #2552666 30-Aug-2020 21:40
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Thanks for the advice. I went with the solution originally recommended by Blackjack17. It was an interesting time installing them, they are reasonably straightforward even for someone who should never, ever, ever DIY, like me :)

 

Time will tell if it's better, but the magnetic force isn't at all strong, even though I dropped one and it bounced, and I kid you not, jumped 2.6m (I measured it) to land squarely and loudly, on our washing machine.

 

It takes minimal effort to push the door open, but seems to be enough to keep it stable once there. We will see what it's like on a windy day. It's a much quieter solution on the whole, though it's noisy when it closes because it "bangs" against the bumper pretty much no matter how softly you close it. No soft close at all, which is a bit disappointing.

 

Now I just need to get my head around filling the holes left for the gear I removed. I've posted a photo in case anyone has any desire to make a couple of suggestions.

 

 

 


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  #2552682 30-Aug-2020 22:15
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Not sure if anyone here knows, or can tell from the pictures. I know that our paint scheme is Resene Tea, Half Tea and I think Quarter Tea. I assume it's Quarter on the Ceiling, half on the walls, and Tea on the door areas perhaps?

 

 


 
 
 

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networkn:

 

Thanks for the advice. I went with the solution originally recommended by Blackjack17. It was an interesting time installing them, they are reasonably straightforward even for someone who should never, ever, ever DIY, like me :)

 

Time will tell if it's better, but the magnetic force isn't at all strong, even though I dropped one and it bounced, and I kid you not, jumped 2.6m (I measured it) to land squarely and loudly, on our washing machine.

 

It takes minimal effort to push the door open, but seems to be enough to keep it stable once there. We will see what it's like on a windy day. It's a much quieter solution on the whole, though it's noisy when it closes because it "bangs" against the bumper pretty much no matter how softly you close it. No soft close at all, which is a bit disappointing.

 

Now I just need to get my head around filling the holes left for the gear I removed. I've posted a photo in case anyone has any desire to make a couple of suggestions.

 

 

 

 

 

Get some sticky backed foam and fit it at a suitable point for the door to close up against. That should reduce the noise.

 

You could have left the striker plates in place. They've always been there and wouldn't look out of place if they were left there.

 

Can you see the hole in the door under normal circumstances? If not, why bother filling it?





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  #2552689 30-Aug-2020 22:34
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I still have the plates, I could reinstate them I guess, but I guess I'd like to "finish" the job :)

 

 


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  #2552731 30-Aug-2020 22:41
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networkn:

 

I still have the plates, I could reinstate them I guess, but I guess I'd like to "finish" the job :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair enough. Try something like this https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/selleys-permafilla-ready-mixed-filler-230g-white/p/129484 then sand and paint it.

 

 

 

P.S. I update my earlier post to add the idea about sticky backed foam. You may have missed that bit since you replied pretty quickly,

 

 





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  #2552754 31-Aug-2020 06:12
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Technofreak:

 

networkn:

 

I still have the plates, I could reinstate them I guess, but I guess I'd like to "finish" the job :)

 

 

Fair enough. Try something like this https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/selleys-permafilla-ready-mixed-filler-230g-white/p/129484 then sand and paint it.

 

P.S. I update my earlier post to add the idea about sticky backed foam. You may have missed that bit since you replied pretty quickly,

 

 

I’m not sure Permafilla is really what you want for this filling job - it’s more of a surface filler and not best for filling holes of some volume. It will take a long time to dry in volume and will likely shrink and crack.

 

I’d suggest an epoxy filler like these:

 

https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/gorilla-builders-bog-500g-grey/p/370552

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ados-250ml-builders-fill_p0272891

 

These cure by a chemical reaction and will not shrink like air drying fillers.





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eracode:

 

I’m not sure Permafilla is really what you want for this filling job - it’s more of a surface filler and not best for filling holes of some volume. It will take a long time to dry in volume and will likely shrink and crack.

 

I’d suggest an epoxy filler like these:

 

https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/gorilla-builders-bog-500g-grey/p/370552

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ados-250ml-builders-fill_p0272891

 

These cure by a chemical reaction and will not shrink like air drying fillers.

 

 

Agree, the gorilla product would be better. In my hurry to get the reply completed late last night the Permafilla was the first thing I could find.





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Technofreak:

eracode:


I’m not sure Permafilla is really what you want for this filling job - it’s more of a surface filler and not best for filling holes of some volume. It will take a long time to dry in volume and will likely shrink and crack.


I’d suggest an epoxy filler like these:


https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/gorilla-builders-bog-500g-grey/p/370552


https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ados-250ml-builders-fill_p0272891


These cure by a chemical reaction and will not shrink like air drying fillers.



Agree, the gorilla product would be better. In my hurry to get the reply completed late last night the Permafilla was the first thing I could find.



The builders bog would be best. The permafilla is better suited for small nail holes.

With the bog mix it up in a plastic Indian takeway style container. You can cut a trowel out of the lid if you don't have one. Then just through the whole lot out when you are done. Otherwise a butter knife works. Just make sure you clean it up when it is still wet as when it is dry it isn't coming off.

You don't need it too smooth as when it dries you need to sand it back. However the messier you leave it the more sanding you have to do.




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