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#3114880 12-Aug-2023 01:46

fe31nz:

eracode:

IANA sparkie but I recently replaced a dozen LED sets for a friend/neighbour under the like-for-like ‘homeowner’ rule.

So you did electical work for someone else, not your own property? That is illegal - only the occupier or owner can do work on their own home. Anyone else must be a registered electrician. You can give someone else advice on how to do things, but you can not do any of the work at all.

Mea culpa.

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#3115044 12-Aug-2023 17:46

fe31nz:
eracode:

IANA sparkie but I recently replaced a dozen LED sets for a friend/neighbour under the like-for-like ‘homeowner’ rule.

So you did electical work for someone else, not your own property? That is illegal - only the occupier or owner can do work on their own home. Anyone else must be a registered electrician. You can give someone else advice on how to do things, but you can not do any of the work at all.

100% correct. It’s absolutely an unregistered electrical work and does not qualify under the home owners exemption.

It’s one of those things where it appears you are doing someone a favour but you are setting yourself up for prosecution if something goes wrong.

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#3115045 12-Aug-2023 17:47

Handle9: It’s one of those things where it appears you are doing someone a favour but you are setting yourself up for prosecution if something goes wrong.

In other words, don't post about it on Internet forums.

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#3115210 13-Aug-2023 07:20

Handle9:
fe31nz:

So you did electical work for someone else, not your own property? That is illegal - only the occupier or owner can do work on their own home. Anyone else must be a registered electrician. You can give someone else advice on how to do things, but you can not do any of the work at all.

100% correct. It’s absolutely an unregistered electrical work and does not qualify under the home owners exemption.

It’s one of those things where it appears you are doing someone a favour but you are setting yourself up for prosecution if something goes wrong.

Absolutely no excuses but the background is that our pensioner neighbour is nearly 80 yo. She asked me to replace some of her LEDs because she knew I had done a couple in our home recently. Sounds ridiculous now when I think about it but never occurred to me that I could not stand in for her as homeowner. The replacements were so simple that I never gave it a second thought.

I now wish I hadn’t helped and will not do any more if she asks me again. Would never have knowingly broken this law. Probably irrelevant but FWIW no money changed hands.

For the record, I am not a cowboy, aware of the electrical and legal risks (except in this case - live and learn) and I am very conservative in such matters - as evidenced in this thread I started earlier this year:

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#3118685 21-Aug-2023 16:35

eracode:

They are electrical wire connectors - you cut them into singles or smaller blocks of two or three, depending on the number of wires on the job - one connector per wire. Brass/metal connectors inside insulating plastic housings.

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/narva-50a-connector-strip_p0104101

However you may well not need them at all. If you are replacing a common LED ‘driver/transformer + light fitting’ set, just disconnect the existing driver from the mains cable - and replace it with the new driver/light set. The connector is integrated into the end of the driver. IANA sparkie but I recently replaced a dozen LED sets for a friend/neighbour under the like-for-like ‘homeowner’ rule.

eracode:

How about these. Found them after a 10-sec google for "led downlight 75 mm". That was the first one I saw - i'm guessing there will be lots of others.

Thank you very much for the info.

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#3118690 21-Aug-2023 16:41

larknz:
Where were you suggesting the connectors be used. You can't connect 230v cables and leave them floating in mid air. 230v connections must be in an enclosure of some sort.

👍Good point. Thanks for your remaindering.

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#3118692 21-Aug-2023 16:44

MikeAqua:

Maybe it's just the angle, but that light housing looks it has been distorted by heat. Those little hot bulbs scare me. We had them in our apartment. They produced enough heat to discolour the insulation on the wires.

I got them all replaced with small LED units designed to fit into the same cut out.

I think you're right. Soon I figured out that heat has distorted them over the long time.

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#3118695 21-Aug-2023 16:48

Daynger:

If you are in Auckland i believe i still have a load of these sitting in a drawer in my garage.

I have been pretty sick with a crap flu this week so havnt popped up to measure them.

Thank you for your kindness. I've been very busy last 10 days without checking the message here. Meanwhile I've managed to find some similar ones on AliExpress to replace those distorted ones, and have already placed an order.

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