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  #3204042 7-Mar-2024 10:58
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neb:  Anyone know if the Slurptronics ones are up to scratch, stuff like this or this?

 

 

 

That first one is the same brand as I have had from ja russels, so if you like those awful insulated crimps they should be fine.





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  #3204276 7-Mar-2024 20:27
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richms:

That first one is the same brand as I have had from ja russels, so if you like those awful insulated crimps they should be fine.

 

 

Great, thanks! Not a big fan either but the internal connections on the table saw all use spade connectors so I need to go with them too to wire in the soft-starter.

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  #3204299 7-Mar-2024 21:37
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neb:
richms:

 

That first one is the same brand as I have had from ja russels, so if you like those awful insulated crimps they should be fine.

 

Great, thanks! Not a big fan either but the internal connections on the table saw all use spade connectors so I need to go with them too to wire in the soft-starter.

 

I only use the non insulated ones now. Never had the insulated ones stay on properly, and you never see them used in a commercial product but the non insulated ones are everywhere and are much sturdier.





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richms:

 

Pi's are not that bad when they have stock, but for ESP boards, I could get 20 from an aliexpress seller for what one cost at jaycar

 

 

Yeah I find surplustronics better for esp boards if you have to have one now.  $9 vs $38 for a basic D1 Mini.  But find better options on aliexpress especially as I usually want something that is 12V source input or driving relays or other bits and pieces.


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  #3204546 8-Mar-2024 13:56
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rphenix: But find better options on aliexpress especially as I usually want something that is 12V source input or driving relays or other bits and pieces.

 

 

The problem with Ali is the one I mentioned in the first post, there's so much stuff on there that's either fake (has anyone ever bought anything with genuine Nichincon capacitors from there?) or false advertising, e.g. 20AWG DC power cables that are actually 24AWG and unfit for purpose, from a recent dispute that I got a refund on. I can't imagine I can find any spade connectors on there capable of carrying anything like their advertised rating, and since the table saw has a 30A startup current...

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  #3204584 8-Mar-2024 15:58
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Go to an electrical wholesaler




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  #3204646 8-Mar-2024 21:51
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neb:
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Everything there is overpriced so best for last minute, need it today items only.

 

Yeah, but you also get known-quantity products rather than God-knows-what if you order from anywhere but Mouser/Element14/etc. The reason this came up is that I needed some crimp spade connectors, ordered some online, and... oh, you've sent me low-current blade fuses by mistake, they may be shaped like spade connectors but they're actually rubbish-quality fuses. Anyone know if the Slurptronics ones are up to scratch, stuff like this or this?

 

 

 

In desperation I bought some DIN 6 plugs....gack...what a cluster &^%$.

 

I have no idea what is coating the pins but soldering them is mission impossible even with a good quality flux added

 

The plastic piece that holds the pins melts at a much lower temperature than the pins need to solder, so they can fall out !

 

On Monday I will mount it into a 6 pin DUN socket that will hold everything in place while I give the next plug a try while I wait for something better.


 
 
 
 

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neb:
rphenix: But find better options on aliexpress especially as I usually want something that is 12V source input or driving relays or other bits and pieces.

 

 

 

The problem with Ali is the one I mentioned in the first post, there's so much stuff on there that's either fake (has anyone ever bought anything with genuine Nichincon capacitors from there?) or false advertising, e.g. 20AWG DC power cables that are actually 24AWG and unfit for purpose, from a recent dispute that I got a refund on. I can't imagine I can find any spade connectors on there capable of carrying anything like their advertised rating, and since the table saw has a 30A startup current...

 

 

 

You should see all the Mitotoyo micrometers on there for $20

 

Then you have the "cheap price" items with $200 shipping

 

Or a cheap price, but its for misc part, NOT the actual thing that is shown in the picture

 

 

 

There is more and more deceptive practices happening on Ali now.


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neb:
richms:

 

That first one is the same brand as I have had from ja russels, so if you like those awful insulated crimps they should be fine.

 

Great, thanks! Not a big fan either but the internal connections on the table saw all use spade connectors so I need to go with them too to wire in the soft-starter.

 

 

 

Get good quality ones from an electrical wholesaler, use the proper crimp too, and apply heat shrink if you need the insulation.


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sir1963:

 

neb:
johno1234:

 

Everything there is overpriced so best for last minute, need it today items only.

 

Yeah, but you also get known-quantity products rather than God-knows-what if you order from anywhere but Mouser/Element14/etc. The reason this came up is that I needed some crimp spade connectors, ordered some online, and... oh, you've sent me low-current blade fuses by mistake, they may be shaped like spade connectors but they're actually rubbish-quality fuses. Anyone know if the Slurptronics ones are up to scratch, stuff like this or this?

 

 

 

In desperation I bought some DIN 6 plugs....gack...what a cluster &^%$.

 

I have no idea what is coating the pins but soldering them is mission impossible even with a good quality flux added

 

The plastic piece that holds the pins melts at a much lower temperature than the pins need to solder, so they can fall out !

 

On Monday I will mount it into a 6 pin DUN socket that will hold everything in place while I give the next plug a try while I wait for something better.

 

  What kind of plug?  One of these?

 

You may require one of these tools that you clip on between the plastic and your work area.  The tool then takes the heat instead of the plastic

 

Edit: 6 Piece Soldering Tool Kit | Jaycar Electronics New Zealand





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  #3205320 11-Mar-2024 13:33
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Edit: 6 Piece Soldering Tool Kit | Jaycar Electronics New Zealand

 

 

First the catalogue, now this:

 

 

 

 

They really don't want us shopping there any more do they?

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  #3205321 11-Mar-2024 13:35
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Might be my link.  Search for the code TH1851





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MadEngineer:

Might be my link.  Search for the code TH1851

 

 

That got it, and if I cut&paste the link directly:

 

 

https://www.jaycar.co.nz/6-piece-soldering-tool-kit/p/TH1851

 

 

I also don't get the blank page. Strange.

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Use the correct crimping tool for insulated terminals, similar to this one;

 

Heavy Duty Ratchet Crimping Tool For Insulated Terminals | Jaycar Electronics New Zealand

 

Don't use the flat one as it doesn't provide enough crush.


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  #3205437 11-Mar-2024 15:34
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I have one like that and find that the insulation gets crushed and cut at enough strength to actually hold the wire, negating the purpose of it being insulated. Also harder to get on the end of wires vs the open U shape of the non insulated ones. Just have to remember to put the insulation down the wire first or you're doing it again.





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