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  #3251215 20-Jun-2024 14:26
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Obraik:

 

I just finished a new build, with a different F&P model. It's cooking capabilities are great, but I think that's going to be the case with any induction cooktop. Initially it seemed quite noisy, especially with certain cookware but after around a month or two I hardly notice it now. The one you've linked looks to have solved this other issue, but the one I have has a single touch slider for the whole cooktop and you have to select which hob you want to control, which gets a bit annoying when you're managing a few things cooking at once.

 

 

I have this same model in 60cm as our kitchen is on the small size. 

 

Disclaimer, I work for F&P so I won't try to influence you towards or away from any brand. But I would echo the advice above. Much better to have seperate controls for each heating zone. A single touch slider is functional but it does get a bit cumbersome if you are using multiple zones at the same time and wanting to adjust the cooking power.




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  #3251216 20-Jun-2024 14:28
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It depends what you are doing for a rangehood. We got a miele because it also paired wirelessly with the rangehood to turn on and adapt the speed. So it turns on when you turn on the induction hob and also turns off which is very handy. I don't know of any others that do this. The miele induction hob was also an equivalent price at the time with the other brands. However initially we did have problem with it pairing and I think they had t replace the hob but since then it has worked without issue. Also I think all induction hobs make some sound and you get used to it.  


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  #3251217 20-Jun-2024 14:31
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Senecio:

 

Obraik:

 

I just finished a new build, with a different F&P model. It's cooking capabilities are great, but I think that's going to be the case with any induction cooktop. Initially it seemed quite noisy, especially with certain cookware but after around a month or two I hardly notice it now. The one you've linked looks to have solved this other issue, but the one I have has a single touch slider for the whole cooktop and you have to select which hob you want to control, which gets a bit annoying when you're managing a few things cooking at once.

 

 

I have this same model in 60cm as our kitchen is on the small size. 

 

Disclaimer, I work for F&P so I won't try to influence you towards or away from any brand. But I would echo the advice above. Much better to have seperate controls for each heating zone. A single touch slider is functional but it does get a bit cumbersome if you are using multiple zones at the same time and wanting to adjust the cooking power.

 

 

 

 

You get used to a shared control. The only issue is if someone who isn't used to it uses it, and then burns something on another hob which has happened a few times. .




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  #3251220 20-Jun-2024 14:36
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mattwnz:

 

We got a miele because it also paired wirelessly with the rangehood to turn on and adapt the speed. So it turns on when you turn on the induction hob and also turns off which is very handy. I don't know of any others that do this. 

 

 

As noted by another member on the previous page, this is also a feature that Westinghouse products have as do AEG products (unsurprising, given it's the same company). They call it 'Hob2Hood': https://www.aegaustralia.com.au/inspire-with-aeg/articles/hob2hood-induction-cooking/

 

Convenient, sure, but not revolutionary enough for me to be selecting a brand or model solely or even primarily on this feature - my arm still has the strength to reach above my head!


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  #3251222 20-Jun-2024 14:48
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jonathan18:

 

 

 

As noted by another member on the previous page, this is also a feature that Westinghouse products have as do AEG products (unsurprising, given it's the same company). They call it 'Hob2Hood': https://www.aegaustralia.com.au/inspire-with-aeg/articles/hob2hood-induction-cooking/

 

Convenient, sure, but not revolutionary enough for me to be selecting a brand or model solely or even primarily on this feature - my arm still has the strength to reach above my head!

 

 

 

 

If you have the rangehood built into overbench cabinets, and don't have front facing buttons on the rangehood, this maynot be that easy. To manually turn it on and off or adjust speed requires getting under the bottom of the  cabinets and twisting the head to see the buttons underneath the cabinet as the buttons are all flush. It was actually just a bonus, because we had already chosen the rangehood and hob to match so the feature was just a bonus, but it very useful. Especially leaving it going after cooking, and it automatically switching off when the air is clear, so that does save time in going back to turn it off. It is a bit like having automatic  sensing windscreen wipers and lights on a car. 


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  #3252049 23-Jun-2024 10:37
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Our F & P cook top (ceramic non induction) uses the single slider with "buttons" to select the element. We don't have a problem with that set up. It works well for us.

 

One thing to be aware of is induction cooktops are incompatible with pacemakers, well they were a couple of years ago.





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  #3252075 23-Jun-2024 12:32
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We have NEFF appliances in our new build (we have been in for coming up 2 years now).  Our induction hob is the 60cm version of the N90 - and we love it.  The flexi induction zones mean you can put on bigger pans if required. The magnetic control dial is great - it give the benefit of having one dial to control all zones (no touch sliders required, although you can operate without the dial), while being able to just lift it off (and stick it to the rangehood!) to keep it out the way while you clean the flat surface.  Hum is not overly noticeable, although slightly louder if you crank it all the way up to 9!

 

As an aside, we have had to have both the small combi oven (microwave/conventional) and the dishwasher repaired already.  The magnetron and control panel failed on the former and the microprocessor control panel failed on the latter (resulted in delayed response to key presses). To give them their dues, Kitchen Things and NEFF were very responsive and had the problems solved in relatively short order! As the late Alan Martin always said - "it's the putting right that counts" :-)






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  #3252077 23-Jun-2024 12:46
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edge:

 

We have NEFF appliances in our new build (we have been in for coming up 2 years now).  Our induction hob is the 60cm version of the N90 - and we love it.  The flexi induction zones mean you can put on bigger pans if required. The magnetic control dial is great - it give the benefit of having one dial to control all zones (no touch sliders required, although you can operate without the dial), while being able to just lift it off (and stick it to the rangehood!) to keep it out the way while you clean the flat surface.  Hum is not overly noticeable, although slightly louder if you crank it all the way up to 9!

 

As an aside, we have had to have both the small combi oven (microwave/conventional) and the dishwasher repaired already.  The magnetron and control panel failed on the former and the microprocessor control panel failed on the latter (resulted in delayed response to key presses). To give them their dues, Kitchen Things and NEFF were very responsive and had the problems solved in relatively short order! As the late Alan Martin always said - "it's the putting right that counts" :-)

 

 

Induction also incompatible with non ferrous and non flat bottomed pots and pans. 


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  #3252083 23-Jun-2024 13:05
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We originally had a Samsung induction in our new build [a handful of years ago now]. It required a couple of repairs before it then literally blew up and died. Do not recommend Samsung for induction; and I think it's telling that when we looked at replacements, none of the main retailers [NL/HN, etc] were stocking them.

Our replacement unit [Electrolux] is great.

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  #3252089 23-Jun-2024 13:28
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jamesrt: We originally had a Samsung induction in our new build [a handful of years ago now]. It required a couple of repairs before it then literally blew up and died. Do not recommend Samsung for induction; and I think it's telling that when we looked at replacements, none of the main retailers [NL/HN, etc] were stocking them.

Our replacement unit [Electrolux] is great.

 

+1 to this. With a similar experience.

 

Replaced with a 60cm Miele induction hub. Just the basic one. Hasn’t missed a beat. After this and reading about people having problems with Samsung fridges and washing machines, I have resolved to only do Samsung for phones and TVs.





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  #3252953 25-Jun-2024 11:44
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Been using induction for almost 20 years now and would never go back. Currently have a Bosch 800 mm unit since 2015 and no probs. Before that it was Miele which did fault out of warranty and I had to fight to get a replacement. I found with the Miele half the time my finger would not activate the controls and I had to get the better half to do it for me! Both the original and replacement units were the same, hopefully today's units are better.

 

Not sure what the issues with noise are. The only noise I hear is when it is on boost, and compared to the standard extract fan it is pretty modest.

 

Things I would look for:

 

Granular control. Our Bosch has 0-9 in half steps, i.e. 18 steps. Any less than this and it gets difficult to get the exact heat you require.

 

Flex cooking zones (as in the linked Bosch unit). These are brilliant and add to the cooking flexibility. Most will take one huge pot (rectangular is best) or a couple of small pots by splitting the zone.

 

Edge protection. The glass is pretty tough in these things, but I always wonder about the exposed edges on units standing proud of the bench top. The bosh unit the OP links to has stainless side, as does our unit. This is great for putting pots on to dry off, etc.

 

Shared control. As mattwnz said, you get used to it, although at times the finger does get a bit busy. Pretty minor point to dwell on.


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  #3253033 25-Jun-2024 14:05
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We have a belling - from Harvey Norman, zero problems, had it about 8 years.

 

No problems with cookware, cast iron, standard pots and pans.

 

 

 

Only annoying issue (I would call this user error) is some times condensation from a pot lid lads on the touch buttons, it doesn't turn of right away, but you put the lid back on and come back a while later to find it has switched off...

 

 


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  #3253283 25-Jun-2024 23:34
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Side issue, if you buy Neff and spent more than 8K, get you get a free dishwasher. 

TBH, all induction cooker does the same job - aka to cook with electromagnetic induction. 

There are only two types of Induction cooker
a. there is place for you to place your pots
b. there is unlimited place to place your pots

my 2c, 
a. unless you are a top chef, how many pots can you manage simultaneously. Flexbility comes with a price, do you really really need a zone less cooktop?
b. If you just look at the Bosch induction hob and if you will to switch it to the max and use all the zones, you are looking at 11kW, aka you need three phase. Please include that in your discussion. 

The most important thing to remember about induction hob, is the installation - you got to provide ventilation at the bottom end of it. 
I knew of a story, where a house nearly caught fire because the induction hob was installed without proper ventilation. 


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  #3253284 25-Jun-2024 23:38
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Senecio:

 

Obraik:

 

I just finished a new build, with a different F&P model. It's cooking capabilities are great, but I think that's going to be the case with any induction cooktop. Initially it seemed quite noisy, especially with certain cookware but after around a month or two I hardly notice it now. The one you've linked looks to have solved this other issue, but the one I have has a single touch slider for the whole cooktop and you have to select which hob you want to control, which gets a bit annoying when you're managing a few things cooking at once.

 

 

I have this same model in 60cm as our kitchen is on the small size. 

 

Disclaimer, I work for F&P so I won't try to influence you towards or away from any brand. But I would echo the advice above. Much better to have seperate controls for each heating zone. A single touch slider is functional but it does get a bit cumbersome if you are using multiple zones at the same time and wanting to adjust the cooking power.

 



Senecio, given that you work for F&P, do you know if there are any stainless steel strips for edge protection for the F&P glass induction hob? My concern is that, accidents do happen and one day, i will hit the side of the hob and the glass hob will be chipped off. 


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  #3253298 26-Jun-2024 00:39
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We have (what looks like) the same Bosch version (a Series 8?) in 60cm. It has been great and would buy again with no hesitation if needed. The flexinduction zones come in useful, the boost mode is amazing, the silver edges are a nice touch.


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