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mattwnz
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  #2706638 12-May-2021 16:36
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Here is the link to the Oneroof podcast from this weekend, where one of NZs top proeprty experts said that he doesn't think NZ has a shortage of houses, and NZ has been building enough over recent years. It is just supply on the market that is the problem, and people holding off. Why sell when your house could be earning more money each month they you are working full time?  Warning this is an MP3 download of about 35MB  https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/44698495/wc 08_05_21_ashley_church.mp3  

 

 

Is the house earning? If I sold to get these earnings I either rent at high rates or buy another house at the same price levels. Stuck in the same market. Why would people hold off? Job insecurity has risen with Covid. Employers have a good reason to say no pay increase this year. Safer to leave that upgrade for another time

 

 

 

 

It more applies if downgrading or moving to cheaper area. Or if someone has more than one house, which is common, as the government said, people buy a house to live in, and have a second house as their form of retirement savings. The lack of houses on the market causing the lack of supply seems to be matched with the number of renters who are not moving at the moment. So it could be investors with these rentals who are holding onto properties as they make these massive capital gains and there is no reason for them to sell, when there isn't much else to put their money into. On paper they are making all this money, possibly more than they make working full time, and as long as they don't need the money, it just grows until they cash out.  Many of them will only know about house investment, and not other forms of investments, and may have been bitten in 87 and 08. Feels very frothy.




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  #2706805 12-May-2021 22:40
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Handle9: Ashley Church. The definition of "greed is good" and "turkeys don't vote for Christmas."

He's not an "expert" as much as peddler of propaganda.

 

For once, we agree. He probably has 10 investment properties and would dearly love to see prices keep rising to the moon.

 

Of course, he probably also has no issue with families in South Auckland who can't afford accommodation living out of cars and whatnot, because, well, it doesn't affect him. Selfish, arrogant git he is.

 

The second I see his name on an article, I just click onto the next one.

 

Speaking of the next article (this one was actually interesting): https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/39425

 

Made me think there may be some hope for me (yet).


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  #2706833 13-May-2021 07:54
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It more applies if downgrading or moving to cheaper area. Or if someone has more than one house, which is common, as the government said, people buy a house to live in, and have a second house as their form of retirement savings. The lack of houses on the market causing the lack of supply seems to be matched with the number of renters who are not moving at the moment. So it could be investors with these rentals who are holding onto properties as they make these massive capital gains and there is no reason for them to sell, when there isn't much else to put their money into. On paper they are making all this money, possibly more than they make working full time, and as long as they don't need the money, it just grows until they cash out.  Many of them will only know about house investment, and not other forms of investments, and may have been bitten in 87 and 08. Feels very frothy.

 

 

How many people downgrade? Few. Some downsize, i.e. retirement or old age. Who wants to move to a cheaper area, from a nice suburb to a below average one? No one.

 

I dont follow this "The lack of houses on the market causing the lack of supply seems to be matched with the number of renters who are not moving at the moment." What has renters not moving got to do with this? If renters don't move or they do move, they are still a renter ad the housing stock is untouched as is the level of "for sale" stock.

 

In any case, those that own more than one house and will make money, that house is being used, its being rented.




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  #2707464 14-May-2021 12:26
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This article says too much immigration has placed pressure on a limited supply of houses:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/125117634/what-action-is-next-from-the-reserve-bank-on-housing

 

 


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  #2714935 29-May-2021 07:47
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This could be interesting, although I don't know if it would exactly be game-changing.

 

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2021/05/auckland-property-developer-wants-tax-breaks-for-rent-to-own-properties.html

 

 


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  #2714958 29-May-2021 09:35
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This could be interesting, although I don't know if it would exactly be game-changing.

 

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2021/05/auckland-property-developer-wants-tax-breaks-for-rent-to-own-properties.html

 

 

 

 

Heading says rent to own, but the articles only talks about build to rent. I thought new builds were exempt from the interest deduction removal?

 

Housing crisis wise, developments like this would help rents in that location, but the supply/demand for home buyers wont change. 

 

An idea is true rent to own, shower the developer with tax breaks, even make the capital gain/markup income tax free as long as the rent to own was sold in 5 years. That way builders can build to sell, and enjoy no income tax at all on the capital gain, essentially using the IRD to push builders to build to sell. Won't last forever so get in now.


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  #2716597 1-Jun-2021 10:08
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FOMO dying off?

 

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/39537

 

 

 

 

This blows me away: "Last week a two-bedroom do-up in Milford sold under the hammer at Barfoot and Thompson’s auctions for $3.86m, more than double its CV."

 

 

 

You'd have to think that there is a lot of developable land on that one...and it'd need to be near the shops or beach or both to attract that kind of money (or be lakeside on the other side of Milford)





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  #2716601 1-Jun-2021 10:19
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I think rich expats are returning that's why

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  #2716616 1-Jun-2021 11:21
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Batman: I think rich expats are returning that's why

 

Or not returning, but buying "back home" as a capital gains tax free investment.


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  #2716624 1-Jun-2021 11:38
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Handsomedan:

 

quickymart:

 

FOMO dying off?

 

https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/39537

 

 

This blows me away: "Last week a two-bedroom do-up in Milford sold under the hammer at Barfoot and Thompson’s auctions for $3.86m, more than double its CV."

 

You'd have to think that there is a lot of developable land on that one...and it'd need to be near the shops or beach or both to attract that kind of money (or be lakeside on the other side of Milford)

 

 

"Marketed by Nadja Court, the Stratford Avenue property was pitched as development play, with the land zoned mixed housing urban."  ,

 

its 930sq metres.... and with mixed housing zone you get 3 houses as of right, with the ability to go through a resource consent for more... so its not really that crazy...

 

 


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  #2716686 1-Jun-2021 12:55
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Batman: I think rich expats are returning that's why


Or not returning, but buying "back home" as a capital gains tax free investment.




But wouldn’t it be subject to capital gains if not living in it, as most would likely rent it out to keep it maintained and cover costs?
Or Another ghost home if not renting it out? If people are doing that it shows we need a vacant house tax. We really need to stop people using houses as investments.

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  #2716687 1-Jun-2021 12:59
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Looks like banks in the UK are now starting to buy houses and become landlords as they search for yield. If it happens in NZ home buyers may not only be competing with regular investors but also banks. In the US hedge funds are also apparently buying houses. It is insane what is going on in this low interest environment as people search for better yield.

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  #2716699 1-Jun-2021 13:36
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mattwnz: Looks like banks in the UK are now starting to buy houses and become landlords as they search for yield. If it happens in NZ home buyers may not only be competing with regular investors but also banks. In the US hedge funds are also apparently buying houses. It is insane what is going on in this low interest environment as people search for better yield.

 

Yes... and no.... New Zealand desperately needs some large long term structural own-to-rent investors... I see that Kiwi Propety are looking at doing it at Slyvia Park and Lynmall... the NZ superfund also should look at it too... and I could certainly see Iwi groups like Tainui also stepping in here..

 

Long term renters need long term owners... so having some big players in the marker is not a bad thing IMHO.... hedge funds on the other hand... not so much...I wonder if they have moved on from Bitcoin ....

 

 


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  #2716710 1-Jun-2021 14:08
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many tourist accommodation in AKL are taking long term residents since covid - i guess win win due to no tourists.

 

imagine these people would need places to stay when the country reopens?


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