Kitchen Cabinets Options: Placemakers? Palazzo? Bunnings?

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Topic # 173685 1-Jun-2015 23:32

I've previously used Placemakers for kitchen cabinets (Peter Hay) and been impressed with them - they still look good 9 years later. Now considering doing our own place. I'm rather taken with Palazzo kitchens which are made in Germany - and seem roughly comparble - probably about $12k - $15k for cabinets if we don't go stupid with granite benchtops and integrated European appliances.

Oddly Placemakers seem to be not a whole lot cheaper ( maybe $2k to $3k) ..

Has anyone used either of these or similar recently? Others to consider?

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Reply # 1315841 2-Jun-2015 07:44

bunnings do Kaboodle: http://www.kaboodle.co.nz/ which has a good range of different cabinets etc and also has a 3d planner tool on their site so you can actually create and see what the kitchen will look like before you get it. it will also display a parts list so you could take it into bunnings and get them to get all the parts in if they dont have them.

bunnings generally also have a few displays instore so you can see what they are like before you buy.

havent used them myself but thats who im looking to use when i eventually get round to doing the kitchen.

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Reply # 1315852 2-Jun-2015 08:09

When we did our kitchen it was much the same price to go custom made as it was to buy flat pack from Placemakers or Bunnings. We used JAG kitchens in Botany and they were good. We have a small kitchen but the cost was in the bench top, it cost the same as the cabinets, around $5k.

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Reply # 1315853 2-Jun-2015 08:09

FYI Our bench top was granite.

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Reply # 1315868 2-Jun-2015 08:43

Handle9: When we did our kitchen it was much the same price to go custom made as it was to buy flat pack from Placemakers or Bunnings. We used JAG kitchens in Botany and they were good. We have a small kitchen but the cost was in the bench top, it cost the same as the cabinets, around $5k.

That's interesting - I was beginning to wonder that. Yeah I've heard granite is expensive - fortunately I don't like it I want an integrated stainless steel bench with sink - had one before - best thing ever.

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Reply # 1315889 2-Jun-2015 09:13

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We recently renovated our kitchen, adding new cabinetry to an existing Mitre 10 flat pack kitchen to double the kitchen in size.

The Mitre 10 quote for new cabinets came to around $6K. You have to install it yourself, and I'm not that handy.

We got a quote from a company called Ace Laminates (Upper Hutt) and all up it was around $7K, professionally installed, including a new bench top that was not included in the Mitre 10 quote.

We were surprised that it was only $1K more for a professional, custom made kitchen and bench top. You should shop around and get some quotes from cabinet makers.

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Reply # 1315908 2-Jun-2015 09:48

Cheers MIleHigh- I will check them out as I'm in Porirua

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Reply # 1316353 2-Jun-2015 17:19

lissie:
Handle9: When we did our kitchen it was much the same price to go custom made as it was to buy flat pack from Placemakers or Bunnings. We used JAG kitchens in Botany and they were good. We have a small kitchen but the cost was in the bench top, it cost the same as the cabinets, around $5k.

That's interesting - I was beginning to wonder that. Yeah I've heard granite is expensive - fortunately I don't like it I want an integrated stainless steel bench with sink - had one before - best thing ever.

That'll probably cost more than granite - stainless is a dog to work with and very difficult to join on site. If you only have straight bench tops it might be ok but as soon as you go round a corner it gets very expensive.

This guide is quite good http://www.jagkitchens.co.nz/kitchen-cabinets-and-benchtops

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Reply # 1316383 2-Jun-2015 17:50

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Handle9:

That'll probably cost more than granite - stainless is a dog to work with and very difficult to join on site. If you only have straight bench tops it might be ok but as soon as you go round a corner it gets very expensive.

This guide is quite good http://www.jagkitchens.co.nz/kitchen-cabinets-and-benchtops

Thanks for the link that's helpful. I've owned 2 ktichens with stainless steel bench tops (one of which was my design) - I'd never go back to a benchtop I have to fuss with and worry about putting hot items on - it is, after all, a kitchen. Very happy to go cheap on some itmes but stainless bench tops and double dishdrawers are non-negotiable :-)

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Reply # 1316389 2-Jun-2015 18:07

Handle9:
lissie:
Handle9: When we did our kitchen it was much the same price to go custom made as it was to buy flat pack from Placemakers or Bunnings. We used JAG kitchens in Botany and they were good. We have a small kitchen but the cost was in the bench top, it cost the same as the cabinets, around $5k.

That's interesting - I was beginning to wonder that. Yeah I've heard granite is expensive - fortunately I don't like it I want an integrated stainless steel bench with sink - had one before - best thing ever.

That'll probably cost more than granite - stainless is a dog to work with and very difficult to join on site. If you only have straight bench tops it might be ok but as soon as you go round a corner it gets very expensive.

This guide is quite good http://www.jagkitchens.co.nz/kitchen-cabinets-and-benchtops

A good designed house can have a kitchen that can do away with having corners. Corners are a waste of space in a kitchen, and often need expensive solutions to make them usable. With stainless steel, they are often butted up so you end up with a dirt trap.
I like that textured stainless steel myself which doesn't scratch the same way.

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Reply # 1316410 2-Jun-2015 18:44

i reno'd our kitchen using peter hay cabinets and they were fine. we got the benchtop made direct from a top maker. in our new house we got a laminate benchtop with an acrylic edge that makes it look like a marble top. many visitors have commented that our marble top must have cost a fortune....hehe. we also used a black granite sink which really looks classy and wasnt that much more than a ss sink. and the bonus is that with the granite sink your insinkerator doesnt sound like a wood chipper in your kitchen, very quiet

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Reply # 1316413 2-Jun-2015 18:54

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I recently put a Bunnings Kaboodle kitchen into the inlaws bach. Around $5.5k for cabinets, benchtop, sink, oven, hob, rangehood, splashback, insinkerator, hardware for a small-medium size kitchen. Did the cabinets and plumbing myself, only additional cost was the sparky. Quality was slightly less than a locally made kitchen, but not so much to be an issue - for example the doors are 16mm thick, whereas local kitchen manufacturers are likely to use 18mm. I'd definitely go this route again in my own house

That said, I know the folks at Kitchen Creators, who are Kapiti based (I'm South Island based now so couldn't use them), but they install throughout Wellington region. They are your traditional local kitchen designer/manufacturer/installer, but have some pretty good economies of scale as they also sell kitchens flat pack and assembled without installation services. Worth having a chat with them, I suspect they would be priced pretty sharply as far as local manufacturers go

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Reply # 1316418 2-Jun-2015 19:00

Oh and a word of warning around Bunnings Kaboodle kitchens (probably applies to M10, Placemakers) - their staff member stuffed up when taking the plans that we had agreed on into an invoice for the various components, and I didn't pick up on it until I was 5 hours drive from the nearest Bunnings store trying to install the thing! Ended up with a 600mm wide sink cabinet rather than 800mm, so had no choice but to hack into the cabinet to make the insinkerator fit. Not my proudest work.

Lesson - double check the plans match the invoice/receipt

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Reply # 1316465 2-Jun-2015 21:22

mattwnz:

A good designed house can have a kitchen that can do away with having corners. Corners are a waste of space in a kitchen, and often need expensive solutions to make them usable. With stainless steel, they are often butted up so you end up with a dirt trap.
I like that textured stainless steel myself which doesn't scratch the same way.

This is not a new house - we're replacing the original 1985 kitchen and knocking down a couple of interior walls to incorporate the dining room and part of the laundry into the kitchen area. Basically the corners are a fact of life and unfortunately will probably end up with three of them.

Yeah I like the linen or textured look SS too - and will definitely get it. It probably scratches exactly the same- it's just less noticeable - but fankly I'm not OCD over scratches.

Not sure what you mean re a dirt trap? I would run the SS up the wall slights as an upstand to avoid the edge issue

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Reply # 1316466 2-Jun-2015 21:26

floydie: i reno'd our kitchen using peter hay cabinets and they were fine. we got the benchtop made direct from a top maker. in our new house we got a laminate benchtop with an acrylic edge that makes it look like a marble top. many visitors have commented that our marble top must have cost a fortune....hehe. we also used a black granite sink which really looks classy and wasnt that much more than a ss sink. and the bonus is that with the granite sink your insinkerator doesnt sound like a wood chipper in your kitchen, very quiet

I've seen those black sinks - but the one I saw was $2k LOL I like the look of the new laminates - it's more the functionality - can't put hot pots on it - and can't under-mount the sink - which are my issues

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Reply # 1316467 2-Jun-2015 21:27

nickb800:

That said, I know the folks at Kitchen Creators, who are Kapiti based (I'm South Island based now so couldn't use them), but they install throughout Wellington region. They are your traditional local kitchen designer/manufacturer/installer, but have some pretty good economies of scale as they also sell kitchens flat pack and assembled without installation services. Worth having a chat with them, I suspect they would be priced pretty sharply as far as local manufacturers go

Thanks - will check them out

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