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# 177517 5-Aug-2015 11:30
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Hey guys,

I recently rented a place in France which had some of its lights that were on a motion sensor. Say the light in the hallway would turn on automatically as you exited a room and entered the hallway.

I think this is really cool and would like to look into installing something similar here. My hallway is about 5-10m so might need more than 1 sensor for full coverage.

Do you guys know of any products that might achieve that for a reasonable investment? I know the Fibaro motion sensor might do the trick but while the perspective of having an automated house appeal to me a lot, I don't have the budget to get into that kind of heavy handed solution at the moment.

Any ideas?

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  # 1359196 5-Aug-2015 11:41
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In our house (built last year), our Electrician just put some motion sensors into the ordinary PDL light switches.

Like these: http://www.pdl.co.nz/product-details.aspx?rcat=products&catid=737&id=1865

I doubt they were very expensive; they are wired inline with an existing switch so they can be turned off.  For the stairs, we have sensors at top and bottom which turn stairwell lighting on (it goes off after a few minutes).

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  # 1359198 5-Aug-2015 11:43
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You can do this with a ceiling mount PIR. My folks have this in their hallway, one at each end that turn on some small LEDs to light the path to the bathroom or whatever. There is a 3 way switch on the wall, Auto, Manual, Off. 

 
 
 
 




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  # 1359230 5-Aug-2015 12:00
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That 3-way switch sounds like what I would want as I am sure we would go into situations where we would want to keep the light off or on all the time. Thanks for that.

I might need to talk to an electrician, I guess...

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  # 1359284 5-Aug-2015 12:19
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my dad puts them in the bathrooms at work to discourage people sitting on the toilet for 30 mins.

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  # 1359288 5-Aug-2015 12:23
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Jase2985: my dad puts them in the bathrooms at work to discourage people sitting on the toilet for 30 mins.


Right, because it's impossible to reactivate them by waving your arms on the can?

I wanted to get floor lighting when we relayed carpet on the stairs, so that as you approached the stairs, even in the dark, they would detect you and light the way, but the cost was stupidity.

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  # 1359291 5-Aug-2015 12:24
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correct, when the sensor is mounted in the switch plate unless you open the cubical there is no way to get the light back on.

I have been to a few places who have these installed

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  # 1359292 5-Aug-2015 12:25
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networkn:
Jase2985: my dad puts them in the bathrooms at work to discourage people sitting on the toilet for 30 mins.


Right, because it's impossible to reactivate them by waving your arms on the can?

I wanted to get floor lighting when we relayed carpet on the stairs, so that as you approached the stairs, even in the dark, they would detect you and light the way, but the cost was stupidity.


It is if you're in a stall and the sensor is outside of the stall.

IIRC the sensors were around $100ea, then obviously labour, tps, switching etc. 

 
 
 
 


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  # 1359295 5-Aug-2015 12:28
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lxsw20: You can do this with a ceiling mount PIR. My folks have this in their hallway, one at each end that turn on some small LEDs to light the path to the bathroom or whatever. There is a 3 way switch on the wall, Auto, Manual, Off. 

You sir, may have just solved a staff productivity issue!!


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  # 1359301 5-Aug-2015 12:36
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lxsw20:
networkn:
Jase2985: my dad puts them in the bathrooms at work to discourage people sitting on the toilet for 30 mins.


Right, because it's impossible to reactivate them by waving your arms on the can?

I wanted to get floor lighting when we relayed carpet on the stairs, so that as you approached the stairs, even in the dark, they would detect you and light the way, but the cost was stupidity.


It is if you're in a stall and the sensor is outside of the stall.

IIRC the sensors were around $100ea, then obviously labour, tps, switching etc. 


I'd hate to work for a company who did this sort of thing. It's treating a symptom rather than fixing the issue itself.

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# 1359338 5-Aug-2015 13:11
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hsvhel:
lxsw20: You can do this with a ceiling mount PIR. My folks have this in their hallway, one at each end that turn on some small LEDs to light the path to the bathroom or whatever. There is a 3 way switch on the wall, Auto, Manual, Off. 

You sir, may have just solved a staff productivity issue!!



Let me know where to send the invoice for consulting services :P



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  # 1359348 5-Aug-2015 13:24
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nolanz: I recently bought three of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/191521993410?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=490599522344&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT



This is pretty cool, appart from the light looking like a boob ;-)

I have 5 downlights in the hallway IIRC so might be better to fit a switch rather than have sensors in lighbulbs although this solution would let each lightbulb be managed individually which could be cool

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We sold some motion sensor LED light bulbs (A model very similar to this: http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=BULLED1059 ) which has the sensor built into them. I don't really know how they work because I haven't tried one out but it sounds like what you're after?  They're quite cheap considering. 




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  # 1359459 5-Aug-2015 15:03
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networkn:
lxsw20:
networkn:
Jase2985: my dad puts them in the bathrooms at work to discourage people sitting on the toilet for 30 mins.


Right, because it's impossible to reactivate them by waving your arms on the can?

I wanted to get floor lighting when we relayed carpet on the stairs, so that as you approached the stairs, even in the dark, they would detect you and light the way, but the cost was stupidity.


It is if you're in a stall and the sensor is outside of the stall.

IIRC the sensors were around $100ea, then obviously labour, tps, switching etc. 


I'd hate to work for a company who did this sort of thing. It's treating a symptom rather than fixing the issue itself.


How do you fix the issue of people wasting time in the toilet? having a light that turns off in a reasonable amount of time is a good incentive to get off the toilet and go back to work is it not? would you rather the company give out a warning for wasting time?

10 mins in the toilet a day is 40 hours over a standard working year.



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Jase2985:
networkn:
lxsw20:
networkn:
Jase2985: my dad puts them in the bathrooms at work to discourage people sitting on the toilet for 30 mins.


Right, because it's impossible to reactivate them by waving your arms on the can?

I wanted to get floor lighting when we relayed carpet on the stairs, so that as you approached the stairs, even in the dark, they would detect you and light the way, but the cost was stupidity.


It is if you're in a stall and the sensor is outside of the stall.

IIRC the sensors were around $100ea, then obviously labour, tps, switching etc. 


I'd hate to work for a company who did this sort of thing. It's treating a symptom rather than fixing the issue itself.


How do you fix the issue of people wasting time in the toilet? having a light that turns off in a reasonable amount of time is a good incentive to get off the toilet and go back to work is it not? would you rather the company give out a warning for wasting time?

10 mins in the toilet a day is 40 hours over a standard working year.




Wow, just WOW. 

You'd get a more bigger return on your investment worrying about how to make people more effective in the times they are working. 

There are just so many ways this is wrong, but anyways, all power to you.

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