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#226307 31-Dec-2017 12:29
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Hey all.  So I have a question about laying vinyl over existing vinyl in a home.

Background - I rent and have a really good relationship with the landlord - he has just done the insulation and is about to replace the kitchen bench, sink and taps, and he lets me paint the house how I like.  So a win-win for us both.  However the floors are really old and the vinyl is splitting in places and the joins are coming away.  We have discussed replacing it, but to do it properly would involve replacing the sub-floor, which is very not flat.  This would be in the bathroom / toilet, the kitchen and the dining area.  So we would have to move out.

So, back the original question.  I thought about laying new vinyl over the existing, for 2 reasons - aesthetics and hygiene (its hard to keep clean when the seems are splitting).

Is this possible?  I have done a floor replacement before in my own house, I bought heavy duty stuff that simply stayed in place due to its weight, but it wasn't cheap.  Are there other options?

Many thanks all!


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  #1927338 31-Dec-2017 13:29
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Wwe have done exactly this in the past and it was not expensive to put down.

 

In our case the installer took a pattern of the floor and made a plywood copy ( 3 ply off the top of my head and about 1mm - 1.5mm thick ) and this was put down with thousands of long staples.

 

The new lino was laid over the top, it took the guy about 1/2 a day all up and was about $600 all up.

 

The downside was when we renoed the kitchen a couple of years ago, the top lino came up easy, the plywood not so bad but on my hands and knee's for a days pulling out bloody staples with plyers and cutters was just painfull, then getting the old lino up was bloody near impossible bit go there in the finish.

 

John





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  #1927340 31-Dec-2017 13:37
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Also old flooring may have asbestos in it so subject to major hassle to remove it. Best to just cover it if that is the case. Friends place they used some thin MDF like board they gave a funny name to when covering it.





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  #1927368 31-Dec-2017 15:51
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richms:

Also old flooring may have asbestos in it so subject to major hassle to remove it. Best to just cover it if that is the case. Friends place they used some thin MDF like board they gave a funny name to when covering it.



Masonite hardboard?



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  #1927400 31-Dec-2017 17:38
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JayADee:
richms:

 

Also old flooring may have asbestos in it so subject to major hassle to remove it. Best to just cover it if that is the case. Friends place they used some thin MDF like board they gave a funny name to when covering it.

 



Masonite hardboard?


There is a product called tile-and-slate underlay - its a hardboard product that I used when I previously laid lino.  Is Masonite the brand name for that?




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  #1927401 31-Dec-2017 17:39
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richms:

 

Also old flooring may have asbestos in it so subject to major hassle to remove it. Best to just cover it if that is the case. Friends place they used some thin MDF like board they gave a funny name to when covering it.

 



That's a really good point.  Hadn't thought about that. So covering may be the best option.


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  #1927402 31-Dec-2017 17:40
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JayADee:
richms:

Also old flooring may have asbestos in it so subject to major hassle to remove it. Best to just cover it if that is the case. Friends place they used some thin MDF like board they gave a funny name to when covering it.



Masonite hardboard?


May have been. I doubt he will remember either but it was a nice option at the time compared to removal of the old stuff and I hate to think how much more expensive remval is no vs about 8 years ago.




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  #1927460 31-Dec-2017 21:51
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timbosan:

JayADee:
richms:


Also old flooring may have asbestos in it so subject to major hassle to remove it. Best to just cover it if that is the case. Friends place they used some thin MDF like board they gave a funny name to when covering it.




Masonite hardboard?


There is a product called tile-and-slate underlay - its a hardboard product that I used when I previously laid lino.  Is Masonite the brand name for that?



No, tile and slate is a different beast. I used that for under my tiles. Still going strong, happy to say.

Masonite hard board is brown, rough on one side and smooth on the other and comes in at least two thicknesses that I've seen.

I don't know anything about the suitability of either for what you're doing. I'll be interested to know what you do in the end.
Last time I went into a flooring shop I was amazed at the array of looks you can get in vinyl.

 
 
 
 


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  #1927472 31-Dec-2017 22:56
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I had our lino tested before we covered it by https://www.dowdellassociates.co.nz/

 

Thankfully it came back negative, apparently is is not just the lino, the adhesive can have asbestos.

 

when it came time to lift the lino we could breath a little easier.

 

John

 

 





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