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#280788 11-Jan-2021 09:55

Can anyone recommend a vendor they've used and are happy with for an entrance door? I want a new colored door that is not made of wood likely aluminum, with glass panels each side, which will require some minor building work around it. I have a builder I use but prefer a company to supply and install, so if anything goes wrong there's one company to talk to.

I've talked to HPW (they do quotes remotely with photos) and Westview Aluminum (who are sending someone out in the next few weeks).

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#2633411 11-Jan-2021 10:02

https://www.hpw.co.nz/ - Havent used them directly but they supplied all of the doors, windows, joinery for our new builds in a couple of our places now.
No issues with them. High quality and good service.

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#2633430 11-Jan-2021 10:19

What sort of door? Main options are timber, aluminium and fibreglass. When we replaced our front door, I wanted an aluminium one but aluminium has quite a limited colour range and painting is problematic. We ended up with a fibreglass door and pretty happy with it (though I wish I had picked a different weather seal). More info here:

https://www.parkwooddoors.co.nz/our-range/entrance-doors/

I think you can retrofit timber and fibreglass to existing door frames, but believe aluminium usually requires a new frame - were you planning on a one for one swap in the existing frame, or reframing?

Wellington's major door supplier is Hoults: https://houltsdoors.com/doors/entrance-doors/. They supply builders and Mitre10 and Bunnings. But I don't think they install (though will prehang if you're using a new frame).

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#2633437 11-Jan-2021 10:37

Many of the window manufacturers will just order doors in from the likes of Parkwood (who do wood, fibreglass and aluminium)

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#2633440 11-Jan-2021 10:50

mdf:

What sort of door? Main options are timber, aluminium and fibreglass. When we replaced our front door, I wanted an aluminium one but aluminium has quite a limited colour range and painting is problematic. We ended up with a fibreglass door and pretty happy with it (though I wish I had picked a different weather seal). More info here:

https://www.parkwooddoors.co.nz/our-range/entrance-doors/

I think you can retrofit timber and fibreglass to existing door frames, but believe aluminium usually requires a new frame - were you planning on a one for one swap in the existing frame, or reframing?

Wellington's major door supplier is Hoults: https://houltsdoors.com/doors/entrance-doors/. They supply builders and Mitre10 and Bunnings. But I don't think they install (though will prehang if you're using a new frame).

Anything but wood, aluminum or fiberglass in a standard color, with privacy glass panels either side of the door. We'll probably replace the whole door area. Our other doors are PVC but we want color for this door.

Are there different weather seal options?

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#2633441 11-Jan-2021 10:50

nickb800:

Many of the window manufacturers will just order doors in from the likes of Parkwood (who do wood, fibreglass and aluminium)

Don't really mind where it comes from, I just want to deal with a single vendor.

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#2633461 11-Jan-2021 11:00

timmmay:

<snip>Are there different weather seal options?

See http://www.ravenseals.co.nz/domino/raven/ravenweb.nsf/html-v/catalogue2. Doesn't seem to like deep linking so you need to put the product numbers in the top right box.

We used a RP123 which is advertised as maximum weather protection. Not sure if it is the design or just the way it was fitted, but we've found the additional flaps have broken away over time. The rolled bit seems to work fine on its own though, so wish we'd just gone with the RP30 or RP31 from the start.

Note only relevant for fibreglass (and timber, but you've ruled that out) doors. Aluminium use a different system.

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#2633462 11-Jan-2021 11:01

The recommendation from the guy I'm dealing with to replace our front door was the Duramax range (https://parkwooddoors.co.nz/our-range/entrance-doors/fibreglass-entry-doors/) - I've ordered one and just now need to paint it. They're very heavy doors.

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#2633464 11-Jan-2021 11:03

timmmay:

nickb800:

Many of the window manufacturers will just order doors in from the likes of Parkwood (who do wood, fibreglass and aluminium)

Don't really mind where it comes from, I just want to deal with a single vendor.

Realistically you're then probably looking at aluminium to supply and install. Parkwood will supply but expect builder to install. I was keen on HPW's aluminium doors (the five point locking ones) but couldn't get the colour I wanted - I've had a really good experience with HPW for my windows, but I do know of someone who had a terrible experience - was put right eventually but lots of faffing about. Seemed like she got a bad installation crew.

In terms of the glass surrounds, is that a like-for-like replacement or are you making modifications? Building consent may be required too.

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#2633466 11-Jan-2021 11:04

michaelmurfy:

The recommendation from the guy I'm dealing with to replace our front door was the Duramax range (https://parkwooddoors.co.nz/our-range/entrance-doors/fibreglass-entry-doors/) - I've ordered one and just now need to paint it. They're very heavy doors.

This is what we have and (other than the weather seal) really happy with it. Very good heat and noise insulation (glass is triple glazed).

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#2633481 11-Jan-2021 11:38

mdf:

See http://www.ravenseals.co.nz/domino/raven/ravenweb.nsf/html-v/catalogue2. Doesn't seem to like deep linking so you need to put the product numbers in the top right box.

We used a RP123 which is advertised as maximum weather protection. Not sure if it is the design or just the way it was fitted, but we've found the additional flaps have broken away over time. The rolled bit seems to work fine on its own though, so wish we'd just gone with the RP30 or RP31 from the start.

Note only relevant for fibreglass (and timber, but you've ruled that out) doors. Aluminium use a different system.

Our PVC doors have a PVC door and PVC frame, with a rubber seal between them to make them perfectly weatherproof. I don't see why you'd use anything like what you've linked to, just replace the door and frame to make it properly weatherproof.

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#2633482 11-Jan-2021 11:41

mdf:

Realistically you're then probably looking at aluminium to supply and install. Parkwood will supply but expect builder to install. I was keen on HPW's aluminium doors (the five point locking ones) but couldn't get the colour I wanted - I've had a really good experience with HPW for my windows, but I do know of someone who had a terrible experience - was put right eventually but lots of faffing about. Seemed like she got a bad installation crew.

In terms of the glass surrounds, is that a like-for-like replacement or are you making modifications? Building consent may be required too.

That's fine. I don't want any doors I have to paint, so if that rules out fiberglass that's fine. We'll either match our color steel roof or go for something colorful from their stock range, not too bothered really. Main point is to modernise and make the door work a bit better - the old wooden one sticks.

We currently have the door with glass to one side. We just want to put the door in the center with smaller glass surrounds on either side, so a fairly trivial change. Hope to avoid building consent, our house is so old there are no record of it being built.

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#2633871 11-Jan-2021 20:47

Parkwood are kind of everywhere, lots of companies just resell Parkwood doors. We're using a Parkwood Duramax fibreglass door which, in the brief time it's been there, has been great. Alu has lots of problems, alongside the ones mdf has already pointed out they're also stupidly expensive compared to the other types.

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#2633884 11-Jan-2021 21:06

neb: Parkwood are kind of everywhere, lots of companies just resell Parkwood doors. We're using a Parkwood Duramax fibreglass door which, in the brief time it's been there, has been great. Alu has lots of problems, alongside the ones mdf has already pointed out they're also stupidly expensive compared to the other types.

What problems are you talking about with aluminum? Needing a frame and not being paintable? That's fine, I expect a frame, and don't want to paint it. Or are you talking about something else?

I don't really care what the door is made out of, so long as it never needs to be painted, it's weatherproof and durable. Wood is none of those, in my experience. I also expect the door to close onto a frame that has a rubber seal, so it's properly weatherproof, not the weird semi-weatherproof types that MDF linked to above. I think Fiberglass can be stained, so no painting required, can you get a proper frame for them with rubber seals?

I think it cost us $3K for a back PVC door a few years ago, we're expecting to pay quite a bit more for an entrance door that looks a bit nicer given some building work is required as well. A quote for a similar door a while back was about $3K or a bit more, just the door and not sure if it included a frame - guess it did.

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#2634563 12-Jan-2021 22:00

Aluminium front doors would benefit from being thermally broken or thermally "enhanced'. I'd be wary of a swing door without multi-point locking.

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#2634602 13-Jan-2021 00:50

timmmay:

Can anyone recommend a vendor they've used and are happy with for an entrance door? I want a new colored door that is not made of wood likely aluminum, with glass panels each side, which will require some minor building work around it. I have a builder I use but prefer a company to supply and install, so if anything goes wrong there's one company to talk to.

I've talked to HPW (they do quotes remotely with photos) and Westview Aluminum (who are sending someone out in the next few weeks).

I think the glass door you are referring to is referred to as a plasma door, and I was looking at getting one at one stage. As others have said most doors come from one manufacturer in NZ. You may want to contact the company that installed your door frame to get them to install the new door panel for you, then they would handle it all. Doors can be PITA, especially if they drop, or warp slightly, so you should make sure that if you do have problems with it in the future, they will come back to adjust it. I couldn't suggest one type over another as they have pros and cons. But what some people do is get a fibreglass or solid cord door made, and then get it spray painted at an auto paint shop, so get a good finish.

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