How do I move this light fixture?

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wickedlolipoo

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#284353 15-Apr-2021 18:40

Hi

I am wanting to replace the light bulb in my house to lifx but I don't know how this cover works?
Anyone has any idea?

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There seems to be some kind of clip but I can't get it out?

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#2693370 15-Apr-2021 18:54

Standard downlight 2 spring clips, 1 each side,pull one side lower then the other and try and push clip back and pull out,watch ya fingers and hope you dont break the gib out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdbSMmJAEWc

wickedlolipoo

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#2693430 15-Apr-2021 19:34

Thanks, I left now but will test again next week

If what the youtube video says is right that means all the light is connected to a normal power plug?

Thanks

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#2693432 15-Apr-2021 19:42

Newer installs may be plug and socket otherwise hard wired

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#2693495 15-Apr-2021 20:40

It looks more like a complete, sealed, LED downlight (as opposed to just a cover as suggested in the OP).

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#2693509 15-Apr-2021 20:58

Those look like switch lighting downlights. If so, there will be a plug on the low voltage side of the driver, this can be unplugged and there will be a driver per downlight.

As the lifx includes a driver, you will need to chop the plug off and terminate to the existing lighting cable, however if you are not sure about what you are doing, get an electrician in to do it.

It is simple to do, however you will need termination boxes and lugs https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/goldair-junction-box-small-small-white/p/247779

In terms of insurance/liability, you can do it yourself as long as

1 - it is your home

2 - the site is not used for any commercial purpose

3 - you meet or exceed the specifications in the NZ electrical code.

Hmmmm

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#2693926 16-Apr-2021 17:59

cisconz:

In terms of insurance/liability, you can do it yourself as long as

1 - it is your home, that you own AND live in, cant be a rental.

2 - the site is not used for any commercial purpose

3 - you meet or exceed the specifications in the NZ electrical code.

FTFY

wickedlolipoo

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#2695476 20-Apr-2021 22:24

I took the light out but apparently it's wired like this?

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It's not a big job if I were to call an electrician to take the wire out so I can plug it into something like this right?

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#2695496 20-Apr-2021 23:00

As long as your house has RCDs (test buttons on some of the breakers), it's pretty easy.

If not, you may need a minor switchboard upgrade as technically installing sockets of any type require them to be RCD-protected, whereas extensions or modifications to existing lighting circuits don't need to be. If your house was build after 2003-ish you should be fine.

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#2695805 21-Apr-2021 09:53

wickedlolipoo: It's not a big job if I were to call an electrician to take the wire out so I can plug it into something like this right?

That is new cable, so I expect it is up to current code.

Turn it on and then flick off breakers until it turns off, then unscrew the cable.

You can't perm wire a socket with an international outlet in NZ, so you need to cut the plug off the Lifx and connect it using a https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/goldair-junction-box-small-small-white/p/247779 or similar.

Edit: Sorry, just saw it was a NZ plug on it, you can use a https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/goldair-surface-socket-single-10a-white/p/247747 instead.

Then you can turn the breakers back on and it should be all good.

SomeoneSomewhere:

As long as your house has RCDs (test buttons on some of the breakers), it's pretty easy.

As there is no earth there, the RCD will do nothing in this instance to help.

Hmmmm

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#2695819 21-Apr-2021 10:16

That cable is new enough that there is an earth there, it just isn't connected to the light because the light is double-insulated. It should of course be tested to ensure that it's connected upstream.

It is mandatory for all sockets to have an earth (excluding a separated supply/isolating transformer), and this cannot be grandfathered. If there is no earth, you can't fit a socket, full stop.

RCDs work even when the appliance/fitting isn't earthed; for example if the person being shocked is earthed in some other way like standing on wet ground or touching another earthed appliance or fitting including pipework.

The use of both an RCD and double insulated equipment is mandatory in some situations.

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#2697674 24-Apr-2021 18:31

Sorry another question

How hard or expensive is it for an electrician to change the wall switch lighting.

Like flipping the switch up turns the light off instead of down. The whole house is like this a bit confusing

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#2697676 24-Apr-2021 18:44

wickedlolipoo: Sorry another question

How hard or expensive is it for an electrician to change the wall switch lighting.

Like flipping the switch up turns the light off instead of down. The whole house is like this a bit confusing

It's a 5 mins per light switch IF the switches are relatively new and there are no additional complications.

It's either move the switched wire from the "2" terminal to the "1" terminal or rotate the switch plate 180deg

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#2697711 25-Apr-2021 08:07

wickedlolipoo: Sorry another question

How hard or expensive is it for an electrician to change the wall switch lighting.

Like flipping the switch up turns the light off instead of down. The whole house is like this a bit confusing

Are you sure there is not two way switching for the light? This can cause the light switch appear to be upside down.