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#299032 4-Aug-2022 11:33
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I am trying to replace the brushes on a Philips vacuum cleaner motor. I can’t figure out how to remove the brush holder but I was able to extract the worn brush by prying back the restraining tabs at the end. Unfortunately, I cannot insert the new one as it is too long to fit the space between the holder and the cover plate at the end. 

 

The holder should be removable because the new brush comes with a new holder but I can’t find any way to do this without breaking it. There is a plastic insulating mount that holds it in place, and that in turn seems to be held by tabs in the metal frame. It doesn’t look like it is designed to be replaced. Can anyone help with this?

 

 





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  #2950649 4-Aug-2022 12:27
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I'm assuming the "plastic insulating mount" is the white plastic part in the photo. Are you able to bend back those two metal tabs each side near the top of the white plastic part - to get that off. Maybe the brush mounts are attached to the white part from the back. 





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  #2950652 4-Aug-2022 12:40
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Thanks but this bloody thing is designed to be unfixable. I tried something that didn't work but buggered it for good so I broke out the plastic bit just to see what they had done. It was fixed with tabs from underneath, and then mounted to the motor with tabs in the chassis that couldn't be undone. There simply was no way to access the brush holder. No big loss because it was an old vac and I had doubts to start with, but it annoys me immensely to see things made this way. 

 

 





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  #2950654 4-Aug-2022 12:44
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If you could get replacement brushes and holders that should mean it's possible.



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  #2950665 4-Aug-2022 13:40
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Not with this damned thing. I researched it before I started. Most motors are similar and the brushes for several are generic. The Philips motor design does not make it possible in any normal way to remove the holder. I know, because I removed it in an abnormal way so I could view it from underneath. It is also constructed in such a way that a metal barrier prevents installation of a new brush into the existing holder. I was able to remove the old one because it was worn all the way down. I have worked on other motors and this one is absolutely designed for planned obsolescence. If you can find a way to do this, I really would like to know, because I don't see one.

 

 





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  #2950807 4-Aug-2022 22:41
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The commutator looks pretty worn out too.
Is there much usable copper left on them ?

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  #2950818 4-Aug-2022 23:25
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It is all pretty worn but it worked up until the time the brushes quit making contact. 

 

 





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  #2950823 5-Aug-2022 03:09
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How old is this motor?





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  #2950827 5-Aug-2022 06:45
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Google for a service manual?

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From the photo it looks as if the two tabs just above the spade connections lock the white plastic in place. Levering them outward would allow the holder to pull upwards. The other tabs holding the sides of the brush holder are curved so might not need levering.



Most of my old vacuums have worn the bearings out before brushes.

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  #2950867 5-Aug-2022 10:38
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I went through all this when trying to remove the holder. The tabs holding the plastic are part of the chassis. They are cast iron or steel or whatever the framework is made of. There was no way I could bend them with any means at my disposal. I really did try everything. I also tried searching for a manual but could find nothing for this model. 

 

 





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