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Lizard1977

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#302239 9-Nov-2022 11:40
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Firstly, apologies if this post overlaps with other similar recent threads.  I've read through but haven't really got the kind of info I was looking for.

 

I need a lawn mower (getting annoying having to borrow the lawnmower from my ex every few weeks or so, especially with summer arriving).  The previous lawnmower was a pretty decent Masport President 140cc petrol mower with a steel chassis.  A similar model costs between $450 and $570 locally.  But as I'm looking at getting into battery powertools with a consistent ecosystem, I'm wondering about a cordless mower as well.  My total lawn area is less than 350sqm, all mostly flat.

 

I understand that for a tool like a lawnmower, a higher voltage rating is better (say 40v or higher). Ryobi have some models that are 18v or 36v, but are these 36v tools using a single 36v battery (which I assume isn't compatible with the 18v tool range), or are they using 2x18v batteries? For the area I'm mowing, how essential would the higher voltage models be?

 

Most of the cordless lawnmowers are polymer decks, as opposed to steel.  I understand that steel units are heavier, so drain the battery faster, but would be more resilient to cracks and breaking.  Is the steel deck worth it?

 

From a long-term maintenance perspective, how does a cordless mower stack up against a petrol one?  If you assume one service per year (I think the last one was about $120) plus petrol, then the annual running costs would be less than $200/year.  For a cordless mower, presumably the only service costs are to sharpen the blade, and electricity costs (not sure what they would add up to, but I guess it would be less than petrol).  Over a 5-year period I suspect the cordless option works out better, but I'm guessing they probably wouldn't last as long as a well-maintained petrol mower (up to 20 years).  Anyone crunched the numbers on this side of things?

 

 

 

 


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  #2993951 9-Nov-2022 12:35
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I have a Victa/Briggs & Stratton 80V. Steel deck, but still very flimsy. Still has plastic chutes underneath that surely won't last. Spare batteries are hideously expensive. B&S 80v system has heaps of grunt. Out of production now I believe. 

 

IMHO battery mowers are not there yet. They have a very cheap, disposable toy feeling with a not-so-cheap price tag. 

 

Battery mowers are so much more expensive than petrol (like twice the price or 1/2 the performance) that I don't think they presently stack-up from a cost point of view. The current models won't last as long as a current petrol mowers. I'm confident the battery will fail before a petrol motor and I'm also about 90% sure the handle is going to break-off mine inside of 12 months.

 

If savings is the objective then buy a used petrol mower from Trademe. Sure buy a battery mower if they appeal to you, but don't expect to save money on total cost of ownership. I personally like not having to d!ck around getting them started and not having spare petrol laying around.

 

Polymer decks are not about power saving - that makes no difference to power consumption, it is about cost saving.

 

 

 

 

 

 




  #2993954 9-Nov-2022 12:50
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I have a Ryobi with an 18v battery, although my lawn area is only 160 sq m. It works fine for what I want, although if the grass gets to long it takes a couple of passes to pick up the grass. A 5 Ah battery easily handles a mow. I have also moved to the Ryobi ecosystem because of the wide range of tools available


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  #2993959 9-Nov-2022 13:12
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we looked at battery mowers, but I have decided to repair our old petrol mower (catcher issues).

 

There needs to be a battery standard (ie like all other domestic batteries) so that vendor lock-in does not occur.

 

These companies LOVE battery tools, the really make a windfall with the batteries, they charge about 3 times what they are worth.




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  #2993975 9-Nov-2022 14:00
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sir1963:

 

we looked at battery mowers, but I have decided to repair our old petrol mower (catcher issues).

 

There needs to be a battery standard (ie like all other domestic batteries) so that vendor lock-in does not occur.

 

These companies LOVE battery tools, the really make a windfall with the batteries, they charge about 3 times what they are worth.

 

 

Sounds like the inkjet printers back in the day. Cheap as chips, but they rake it in via the cartridges


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  #2993995 9-Nov-2022 15:12
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I have recently bought into the eGo range of outdoor power tools with the line trimmer, blower and hedge trimmer and can honestly say they are the best garden power tools I have ever used. They do a lawn mower:

 

https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/ego-cordless-lawn-mower-kit-420mm-56-volt-5ah/p/342234?gclid=Cj0KCQiAmaibBhCAARIsAKUlaKSG-18vio6ZMp9rF7kcqRvBUCU7c-Y8PqCzIxgOJbYviPGhkSjZ5WEaAidGEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

The reviews seem very favourable. I have no intent on getting one as I have the ride-on for my garden but it looks like it could be worth investigating further for the OP

 

 

 

 


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  #2993997 9-Nov-2022 15:21
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I have a 36V Ryobi mower. It is a single 36V battery. I assume that there are other 36V Ryobi tools, but haven't bought any.

 

I can say that the mower is great... far superior to the 24V (SLA battery) mower I had before. I was dubious about plastic bodies, but had no problem with that mower (5+ years) so I'm a convert. I would still be using that mower, except that the battery was cracked (put down on a bolt) and there are no replacements available. I chose the 36V Ryobi because (a) it provides a bit more power, and (b) I hope/expect that it'll have a longer support life than the 18V.

 

 


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  #2994001 9-Nov-2022 15:37
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I have an AEG 58V lawn mower with a pretty heavy steel deck. Same batteries as my line trimmer and leaf blower. Works incredibly well and has two battery ports (not that I have had to mow that much lawn at once yet)

 

 

 

Love how the electric lawn mowers can be stored standing up!


 
 
 

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  #2994004 9-Nov-2022 15:56
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We have a ego mower, line trimmer and hedge trimmer and they're all great.  Ego only do landscaping type tools though.  Not drills etc.

 

I noticed your comment about steel mowers being heavier and draining the battery more quickly.  Are you looking at self-propelled mowers?





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  #2994006 9-Nov-2022 16:07
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I have a 52cm self propelled EGO mower with 7.5AH battery. This thing kicks ass. All mowers will stall if you push them too fast into long grass, but the EGO does better than my previous 4 stroke petrol mower. The double blade mulches very well - can barely detect the mulched grass unless it was left to grow too long. I rarely if ever use the catcher, but if the grass is too long I cut it down half without the mulcher plug in then cut it down to size with the mulcher. 

 

The one thing it lacks is a side discharge chute for when you are mowing really tall grass. 

 

They are expensive but well worth it. Never have to go to get gas or put oil in it. It is reasonably light. I have the plastic bodied one so try to be careful with it. The self propel makes it effortless to mow a large amount of grass. One battery is enough to mow the whole lawn then it goes into the line trimmer to do the edges. I have two but could live with only one.

 

 

 

 


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  #2994007 9-Nov-2022 16:11
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I have the smaller brushless 18V Ozito from Bunnings. Works great - $299 with battery and charger.

 

Brushless makes a huge difference (as Ive noticed with my other tools)

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ozito-pxc-18v-brushless-lawn-mower-kit_p0207447

 

The deck is a bit narrow but as per the photos is nice and light and can be picked up with one hand. Have had no issues and owned for about 3 years now.


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  #2994016 9-Nov-2022 16:38
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MikeAqua:

 

We have a ego mower, line trimmer and hedge trimmer and they're all great.  Ego only do landscaping type tools though.  Not drills etc.

 

I noticed your comment about steel mowers being heavier and draining the battery more quickly.  Are you looking at self-propelled mowers?

 

 

 

 

I think the bolded bit actually works for them in that they do one thing and do it right. Their batteries aren't really suitable for small power tools but fit well on garden tools. I am also very impressed with customer service in that I had a redemption 2.5 Amp battery sent to me less than a week after registering for the offer.

 

The standard charger is great, fan cooled and very quick. If you needed to, if you only have a single battery, you could take a break for lunch or a cuppa and come back to a recharged battery.


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  #2994020 9-Nov-2022 16:43
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I always thought that alloy decks were a lot better than steel. Steel was used on the cheaper models, and you ended up paying quite a lot more for an alloy deck. Steel rusts. Plastic mower flaps crack, and steel ones rust. I was looking at the Stihl electric mowers where the battery is interchangeable with a chainsaw, as already have the battery, but still pricey. I think they do have specials from time to time.


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  #2994042 9-Nov-2022 18:48
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MikeAqua:

 

We have a ego mower, line trimmer and hedge trimmer and they're all great.  Ego only do landscaping type tools though.  Not drills etc.

 

I noticed your comment about steel mowers being heavier and draining the battery more quickly.  Are you looking at self-propelled mowers?

 

 

Im surprised they dont do aluminium. Ny Masport President AL 6000 is all. Or not cost effective?


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  #2994049 9-Nov-2022 19:09
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Bosch Rotek here. Had it... ooh, must be at least 10 years. 36V battery. I have about 100 sq m and used to get two mows out of a charge, now I have to charge it after each mow. It's plastic so it's much lighter and easier to carry between levels (I live in  Wellington). I've spent $0 on maintenance - I sharpen the blade myself. I've also had to do a DIY repair on some of the controls. Apart from that the plastic has coped well.





 

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  #2994156 9-Nov-2022 22:41
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We had a Ryobi 36v (single battery) for a couple of years, but upgraded to a Makita 36v (2x18v) last year as the plastic deck of the Ryobi was to flexible on our section, we have quite a slope in places and have to cover about 300sqm. Both can easily do the section on a charge.

The Makita you can get with a redemption bonus for 2 extra batteries. Last year both Bunnings and mitre 10 has the same unit and we price matched to save a bunch, I think only Mitre10 has them this year.

Would never go back to petrol and if our section was flat, would even consider a robot mower.

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