Any thoughts on shadecloths

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#303805 10-Mar-2023 10:58

I appreciate I can just get a quote or three and talk to the council, but thought I'd ask anyway...

Latest plan that might never happen - I hate frying the cars in the sun in the drive in front of the garage, so would anyone have any thoughts on ballpark prices to get some shade-cloth installed ? I know its always more than you expect, but can it be that much to stick a few poles in the ground and attach some cloth to them ? and do I need to ask the council ?

Thanks for any input.

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#3048493 10-Mar-2023 11:11

Where in nz are you?

kolourful Kanvas is the place to go in Christchurch.

Like you say….a few poles and some sail

(cost would depend on the quality of sail you choose).

as for council, I believe it’s the usual proximity to boundary’s and heights that apply…

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#3048498 10-Mar-2023 11:25

Thanks for the info. Bit far away though, am in Whakatane.

Only thing with boundary is I suspect there might be a stormwater drain running along there, although that might head off next door I suppose.

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#3048546 10-Mar-2023 11:36

Check the council website, but my understanding is that if it's a temporary structure (i.e. not attached to the house and able to be (fairly easily) removed, then no Council involvement is necessary.

As long as you meet whatever criteria there is for neighbours, blocking sunlight etc.

One thing I would always suggest when getting shadecloths/sails is go for the best that you can afford. Get marine grade stainless steel fittings and make sure you have enough room at either side to be able to use those shacckle things that allow you to tighten it as it stretches over time.

We had one over our deck for about 15 years. Was excellent and looked good. But the ground is sub-optimal and the poles moved and we needed to re-seat them every couple of years.

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#3048607 10-Mar-2023 12:07

Thanks. Something for me to bear in mind. I guess concreting poles into the ground will count as permanent though. I'll check it out in any case.

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#3048677 10-Mar-2023 15:17

I recently went through this, but just brought one from Bunnings (and made sure it had a decent warranty and UV rating) but never bothered with Council. I put the posts in myself, but I have had to replan this a few times, shade cloths can create a huge amount of tension! Also, I ended up buying a few lengths of black chain as the layout of the posts isn't square (due to the garden design) and as @Handsomedan - get some shackles! The cloth will be very hard to get taught without them :-)

Originally, I started with 100x75 timber, concreted 500mm down, so 2.5m available above ground. I ended up doubling up the posts and adding spacers between them. Stained black and came out looking quite good. Even though the posts now have 220mm bolts through them (8 per post) plus concrete and a retaining wall, there is still some movement. If you wanted to do better, you would have to go with steel or something.

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#3048685 10-Mar-2023 15:38

Exemption from Building consent for shade sails is based on size and position.

"Building work in connection with a shade sail made of fabric or other similar lightweight material, and associated structural support, that:

(a). does not exceed 50 square metres in size; and

(b). is no closer than 1 metre to any legal boundary; and

(c). is on the ground level, or, if on a building, on the ground or first-storey level of the building."