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#195197 9-Apr-2016 20:43
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Thinking of PlayStation Vue or SlingTV in the States. Would anyone use a service to stream free to air TV over the internet?

 

Like being able to stream tv to your phone, laptop, Apple TV etc, etc. Basic streaming would be free, since its called freeview (not really since you have to buy a freeview receiver if you don't have a tv with it built in, & buy a satellite if your out of terrestrial signal zone, like me), but if you wanted to record TV, pay something like 5$ a month, and access all the recordings from your devices as well.

 

Q. Would you guys use something like that?

 

Q. Would you pay for streaming free to air tv?

 

Q. Would you pay extra to record free to air tv if basic streaming was free, if you have unlimited space to record?

 

 

 

 

- PlayStation Vue Interface.

 

And I'm new here, so Hi.


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  #1529223 9-Apr-2016 20:45
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A. No

 

A. No

 

A. No





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  #1529224 9-Apr-2016 20:47
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Well, if you don't watch tv at all, I see why you wouldn't use it.


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  #1529231 9-Apr-2016 20:51
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Have you sourced a license for this from the rightsholders of the streams you are planning on rebroadcasting?





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  #1529235 9-Apr-2016 20:54
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richms:

 

Have you sourced a license for this from the rightsholders of the streams you are planning on rebroadcasting?

 

 

 

 

Of course not, since its only an idea at the moment.


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  #1529239 9-Apr-2016 21:04
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Well that is kinda a big block to a product like that. Even with aereos deep pockets they couldnt get things in their favor when it got to that point.





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  #1529243 9-Apr-2016 21:05
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I don't think many of us here watch much live tv. Apart from live sporting events maybe.

If I'm going to use the Internet to watch something, I don't need to come in half way through, I'll want to start from the beginning.




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  #1529244 9-Apr-2016 21:06
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richms:

 

Well that is kinda a big block to a product like that. Even with aereos deep pockets they couldnt get things in their favor when it got to that point.

 

 

 

 

Yea, I've looked up alot of what aereos done. they said, "the spectrum that the broadcasters use to transmit over the air programming belongs to the American public and we believe you should have a right to access that live programming whether your antenna sits on the roof of your home, on top of your television or in the cloud."




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  #1529245 9-Apr-2016 21:10
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turb: I don't think many of us here watch much live tv. Apart from live sporting events maybe.

If I'm going to use the Internet to watch something, I don't need to come in half way through, I'll want to start from the beginning.

 

 

 

Yea, That's kinda me. The only reason I would like a way to stream tv is there are some shows and specials that you can't get anywhere else. and if I had a dvr in the cloud. like recording sports etc.


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  #1529286 9-Apr-2016 22:42
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Within my network, i deal with this with a HDHomerun as a stopgap measure.

 

 

 

Its handy for some situations, Although generally the heavy work is still handled by the TV itself.

 

and well as for Anything else generally Streaming straight shows or whatever over the likes of netflix is much more compelling..

 

 

 

If i was ever to be in a odd place where i have to stream it anywhere outside the network it would be over a VPN back into the homenetwork anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

After all the licencing stuff, you still have to deal with rencoding the lot to a reasonable format, Bandwidth requirements could clock up pretty quickly.





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  #1529289 9-Apr-2016 22:47
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DVB-S broadcasts are already pretty heavily compressed. I dont think you could get a huge saving on it without making the already bad looking things look much worse. DVB-T could probably be downsized and deinterlaced to get the space requirements down, but that is hardly a massive undertaking, considering there are only 3 streams of HD, and you need to do it once per stream before pushing it out.

 

It's certainly technically doable, but I question the demand for it other than for live events, when the world is moving to an ondemand model.





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  #1529290 9-Apr-2016 22:51
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richms:

 

DVB-S broadcasts are already pretty heavily compressed. I dont think you could get a huge saving on it without making the already bad looking things look much worse. DVB-T could probably be downsized and deinterlaced to get the space requirements down, but that is hardly a massive undertaking, considering there are only 3 streams of HD, and you need to do it once per stream before pushing it out.

 

It's certainly technically doable, but I question the demand for it other than for live events, when the world is moving to an ondemand model.

 

 

Based on the OP my comments on compression/encoding was based on DVB-T.

 

DVB-S really does lack much of an argument at all.

 

 

 

I agree though, ondemand is where we should be looking, not trying to string out standard tv all together. 

 

If i recall correctly, TV3 had a stream, where they would livestream 3 news (before the newshub stuff..) I often used that stream in a pinch, outside of the news time (although it sometimes didnt work..) But it was such poor quality they were practically begging you to just use a TV anyway..





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  #1529302 10-Apr-2016 00:37
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So yeah a lot of this is available streaming on demand. But multiple logins etc and some horrible sites to deal with.

So pvr in the cloud I find useful but to make it useful it would need an excellent ui and excellent program information etc and some community features.

All the best with the project.

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  #1529348 10-Apr-2016 10:17
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gzt: So yeah a lot of this is available streaming on demand. But multiple logins etc and some horrible sites to deal with.

So pvr in the cloud I find useful but to make it useful it would need an excellent ui and excellent program information etc and some community features.

All the best with the project.

 

 

 

Yea, Thanks your your input. I was thinking with community features, universal chat, and chat channels, and maybe voting to see if the people watching tv like whats on. I would make it so you didn't have to make an account if you just wanted to watch a channel, but for saving reminders etc you'll need to. And the UI must be good, I'm someone that hates bad/slow/laggy ui.


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  #1529351 10-Apr-2016 10:25
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hio77:

 

richms:

 

DVB-S broadcasts are already pretty heavily compressed. I dont think you could get a huge saving on it without making the already bad looking things look much worse. DVB-T could probably be downsized and deinterlaced to get the space requirements down, but that is hardly a massive undertaking, considering there are only 3 streams of HD, and you need to do it once per stream before pushing it out.

 

It's certainly technically doable, but I question the demand for it other than for live events, when the world is moving to an ondemand model.

 

 

Based on the OP my comments on compression/encoding was based on DVB-T.

 

DVB-S really does lack much of an argument at all.

 

 

 

I agree though, ondemand is where we should be looking, not trying to string out standard tv all together. 

 

If i recall correctly, TV3 had a stream, where they would livestream 3 news (before the newshub stuff..) I often used that stream in a pinch, outside of the news time (although it sometimes didnt work..) But it was such poor quality they were practically begging you to just use a TV anyway..

 

 

 

 

Newshub does have a livestream on there site, I watch it sometimes. 


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  #1529380 10-Apr-2016 10:56
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All the capturing and DVRing I need is done by nice people who pop a torrentfile up on TPB.





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