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kiwiharry:
tdgeek:
In todays world of phones, and these people aren't 88 years old, why did they not answer the multiple calls?
Are MOH calling from hidden numbers, in which case maybe phone set to reject unknown callers?
They have published a number that they will be calling from in the past and had ads saying if its that number, to answer it. Doesnt excuse that its a phonecall and not a SMS or thru some other messaging service that is actually used by people that are not old.
Lets not generalise based on age. Ageism is not cool at all.
JaseNZ:
Do they have the same level of checking as a road block ??.
If you turn up to a road block and say I am going home do they just let you through ??
I thought you could only move around if you were deemed essential
Genuine questions I don't know the answer to.
I Have a feeling I did hear last time they were instated that would be the case. And may explain the outside queues yesterday. (clean protocols, checks going on slowing it). From the AA website
Auckland is at Alert Level 3 and the rest of New Zealand is at Alert Level 2. At Alert Level 3, access to the domestic and international terminals will only be open to passengers travelling that day. Be prepared to have your travel itinerary checked at the door, and you may be asked about your reason for travel.
Domestic flights: As an essential service Auckland Airport remains operational but at Alert Level 3 travel to and from Auckland has been restricted to those needing to get home or travelling for other essential purposes.
And govt outlines https://covid19.govt.nz/travel-and-the-border/travel-within-new-zealand/personal-travel-across-alert-level-boundaries/
Benoire:
tdgeek:
Just saw that. Not doing the right thing then when interviewed as part of the contact tracing process, did not disclose. I guess when the Govt says we have sealed off all contacts, they can add, apart from the ones we were lied to. Probably not surprising, get told not to do this or do that, and didnt want to disclose they broke the rules, so they buttoned it.
And this is why punishments will not work at all, young people will not come clean due to the fear of recrimination.
so actions should have no consequences?
I'd love to send the dickheads a bill for the cost of all the "deep cleans" that have had to occur. Why should businesses foot the bill? Let alone the other costs with things like lost income, wage and other expenses incurred because of the selfishness of a few.
I get the whole carrot/stick scenario, but it can't be all carrot all the time, sometimes a stick is needed
sen8or:
so actions should have no consequences?
I'd love to send the dickheads a bill for the cost of all the "deep cleans" that have had to occur. Why should businesses foot the bill? Let alone the other costs with things like lost income, wage and other expenses incurred because of the selfishness of a few.
I get the whole carrot/stick scenario, but it can't be all carrot all the time, sometimes a stick is needed
I don't see that it is any different from those people that walked out of MIQ facilities and went for a stroll round Auckland. They were charged with a criminal offence.
If you deliberately break the rules by lying to authorities there has to be consequences otherwise why bother having the rules.
Last two paragraphs say it all
That student that did not answer any calls there were 11 of them that repeated calls went unanswered, seem rather odd
JaseNZ:
Do they have the same level of checking as a road block ??.
If you turn up to a road block and say I am going home do they just let you through ??
I thought you could only move around if you were deemed essential
Genuine questions I don't know the answer to.
I was in the coming back to Auckland roadblock yesterday (on SH2, Mangatawhiri). It took us nearly 3 hours from Maramarua to the checkpoint at Mangatawhiri (Koheroa Road - about 8kms of queue). We were asked where we lived, had a chat with the friendly policeman (can't get frustrated at them - they're doing a fine job) and off we went. At least the motorway was empty.
Felt sorry for the people with kids in the car - no toilets, full sun. Also things like horse floats (saw two in the queue behind us). There was one entitled person who though the empty passing lane was for him to overtake everyone. We all moved over to block the lane after that.
We are not essential, but we did need to get home. Same with everyone else in the queue. They did say on the news this morning that they had to check because if you didn't live in Auckland, and you came in, you'd then have the right to leave at any time, potentially carrying the virus with you. Makes perfect sense to me to be checking.
tdgeek:
Last two paragraphs say it all
That student that did not answer any calls there were 11 of them that repeated calls went unanswered, seem rather odd
Is it really that odd? I have seen several folk on these forums state they do not answer call from numbers they do not know.
MikeB4:
tdgeek:
Last two paragraphs say it all
That student that did not answer any calls there were 11 of them that repeated calls went unanswered, seem rather odd
Is it really that odd? I have seen several folk on these forums state they do not answer call from numbers they do not know.
No, not really but you'd hope that the MoH rep was then leaving a voice message to contact them... I often let calls I do not know ring out and then I'll listen to the voice message so that when I call back I can have more details to hand if needed.
trig42:
They did say on the news this morning that they had to check because if you didn't live in Auckland, and you came in, you'd then have the right to leave at any time, potentially carrying the virus with you.
Well, that regulation needs to be changed. If you go to Auckland while it's L3 and expose yourself to the increased risk of catching covid, you're now an L3 person AFAIAC. Stay in Auckland or stay in your own little L3 bubble. (Which is what those close contacts should have been doing to save all of Auckland from going to L3).
MikeB4:tdgeek:Last two paragraphs say it all
That student that did not answer any calls there were 11 of them that repeated calls went unanswered, seem rather odd
Is it really that odd? I have seen several folk on these forums state they do not answer call from numbers they do not know.
MikeB4:
tdgeek:
Last two paragraphs say it all
That student that did not answer any calls there were 11 of them that repeated calls went unanswered, seem rather odd
Is it really that odd? I have seen several folk on these forums state they do not answer call from numbers they do not know.
send a text message at least.
and then turn up in person to talk to them. shouldnt get to 11 calls in the first place. someone is just being lazy.
MikeB4:
Is it really that odd? I have seen several folk on these forums state they do not answer call from numbers they do not know.
I often don't answer calls from numbers I don't recognise or that have been withheld. I figure that if it's important then they'll leave a message.
I found the numbers that the contact tracing people call from: https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-health-advice-public/contact-tracing-covid-19 Second section, "Contact tracing phone calls".
Note that there are two sets of numbers, one that the contact tracing people use and another set that calls from Healthline may come from.
I've now set up both sets as contacts on my phone so I'll know who they are if they ever have a need to contact me.
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