asymptomatic picked up on routine surveillance testing

Fred99:

 

In coming months I'm pretty certain that we'll have increasing "lockdown fatigue" and resistance to compliance with prevention measures when there is an outbreak,  and that'll be long before we get even close to being "safe" from vaccination programmes. 

 

Level 3s now just mean less traffic on the road for me and not much else. I doubt many businesses could weather another lockdown so compliance will probably falter.

Batman:

asymptomatic picked up on routine surveillance testing

Handle9:

Batman:

asymptomatic picked up on routine surveillance testing

While unfortunate for the person concerned this is really quite good news. If they are getting picked up by routine testing then the process is working.

It's interesting that we seem to have changed the definition of community transmission. This hotel worker is not being classed as CT, despite the fact that previous cases of workers at MIQ facilities that have tested positive being treated as CT.

The vaccination status is going to be interesting, we only have a small number of people (currently around 1000 as of yesterday chatting to a good contact) who have had the 2nd dose. I personally know who 2 people who have had it.

sbiddle:

It's interesting that we seem to have changed the definition of community transmission. This hotel worker is not being classed as CT, despite the fact that previous cases of workers at MIQ facilities that have tested positive being treated as CT.

The vaccination status is going to be interesting, we only have a small number of people (currently around 1000 as of yesterday chatting to a good contact) who have had the 2nd dose. I personally know who 2 people who have had it.

 

 

Fred99:

 

chatterbox:

 

Which governments in Australia haven't opened borders "properly"?  And which travel restrictions are in place within Australia currently?

 

 

Northern Territory at the moment.  Test and self-quarantine if you're from a "high risk" area (defined).

 

Restrictions in other states revoked only about a week ago.

 

Qld has a particular issue with potential movement of infection from PNG via Torres Strait islands, they're prioritising vaccination in N Qld to try and ringfence it.  Boigu is an inhabited Aus Island - part of Queensland - it's 6km from PNG.

 

Anyway, I'm staggered that so many people think it's "easy" to join in to a bubble with another nation with different state and federal governments, and have "what if" scenarios mapped as to what the best response should be when there's an outbreak which could happen anywhere.

 

In coming months I'm pretty certain that we'll have increasing "lockdown fatigue" and resistance to compliance with prevention measures when there is an outbreak,  and that'll be long before we get even close to being "safe" from vaccination programmes. 

 

Those are venue alerts. The same as Queensland. There is no hotspot declaration within Australia currently. I don't recall any travel restrictions on Brisbane or Sydney due to recent cases. Auckland did have 2 lockdowns so I understand restrictions around that. A covid test on arrival is no different from a covid test in NZ and isolating until the result is back. Not really a major travel disruptor.

PNG is a risk but they're their own country separate to Australia too. Queensland started vaccinations earlier in March on Thursday island, then rolled out to the others.

Given Australia has gone through all the border issues already is it not just a matter of choosing some of their rules and copying them? There aren't too many options in these situations and I don't think we're going to see anything new that hasn't already been used within Australia. It's not perfect but what is.  The eastern states won't be keen on standing up land borders as they're resource intense. Airports are easier to screen for travellers and that makes it easier for NZ. 

Lockdowns are being used earlier now than they were previously and for such a small number of cases I think people find it difficult to get behind. Brisbane and Perth locked down over single border linked cases. Hard for a business to get excited about that. We still have 2021 to run through. Hopefully those border vaccinations kick in soon! 

cshwone:

The Government seems very quiet on the whole pace of the vaccine roll out. Very difficult to find any stats trawling through the health website. I suspect that is because it's pretty slow as they are not highlighting the numbers

Their are no "official" numbers released by the Ministry, all we have are "political" numbers given by Minister Hipkins once a week...

its all very secret squirrel at the moment.. Which I'm guessing is because the numbers are not flash... 

The biggest problem is that the rollout is being run by the DHB's.  which will turn into a disaster... just look at how they ran contact tracing...

Eventually the Ministry of Health  will likely take over  and probably bring the Defence force in to get it done... like they did with MIQ...

sbiddle:

 

It's interesting that we seem to have changed the definition of community transmission. This hotel worker is not being classed as CT, despite the fact that previous cases of workers at MIQ facilities that have tested positive being treated as CT.

 

The vaccination status is going to be interesting, we only have a small number of people (currently around 1000 as of yesterday chatting to a good contact) who have had the 2nd dose. I personally know who 2 people who have had it.

 

If you didn't fly or sail the virus in with you and you caught it in NZ, to me that's a community case, not an imported case. What advantage is there to recategorizing the case? The person is actually in the community, not contained within MIQ. Even historical infections diagnosed in our country add to our total don't they? Bit surprised we don't have a list of venue alerts yet as it's been over 12 hrs since the public were alerted. Hope they're not waiting for 1pm. Seems the earlier you get the info out the better?

sbiddle:

 

It's interesting that we seem to have changed the definition of community transmission. This hotel worker is not being classed as CT, despite the fact that previous cases of workers at MIQ facilities that have tested positive being treated as CT.

 

The vaccination status is going to be interesting, we only have a small number of people (currently around 1000 as of yesterday chatting to a good contact) who have had the 2nd dose. I personally know who 2 people who have had it.

 

I guess we will find out at the 1pm with Hipkins and Bloomfield,

At the moment journos seem to be writing stories based on statements from comments the COVID-19 facebook page made by whoever is rostered to the page... 

From Stuff:

MIQ worker not classed as CT (as infection was picked up in MIQ rather than being picked up from the community). Anyone who gets it from the worker should obviously be classed as CT.

Has had the first vaccine dose, but I'm not sure of the timeline. 

At this stage considered very low risk as only a few locations of interest, asymptomatic, and caught via surveillance testing rather than a swab off the back of symptoms.

I remember previous cases which were acquired in MIQ being classified as border cases rather than community transmission, so this is nothing new. I think once it is out of the border worker's household it becomes a community case - ie acquired in the general community rather than during MIQ.

antonknee:

 

At this stage considered very low risk as only a few locations of interest, asymptomatic, and caught via surveillance testing rather than a swab off the back of symptoms.

 

And this is the risk with the vaccination of MIQ workers, they will now remain asymptomatic...

they big unanswered question is are they carrying enough viral load to pass it on..... - The Air NZ case didn't , neither did the NSW hotel worker..