2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#3018108 7-Jan-2023 09:43

You can dial up any comparisons you would like here.

A snapshot of NZ vs USA by age.
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

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#3018112 7-Jan-2023 09:50

I think the chart shows exactly why our covid response should be considered a success.

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#3019168 9-Jan-2023 18:02

'ere we go.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-kraken-xbb15-subvariant-detected-in-nz-ministry-of-health-confirms/64MQJUEQ7RATDHJBCK5OBSVYY4/

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#3019172 9-Jan-2023 18:17

Oblivian: 'ere we go.

where are we going?

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#3019227 9-Jan-2023 19:06

Jase2985:

Oblivian: 'ere we go.

where are we going?

Not sure. We have an open border, of course variants will arrive. Are we fully vaccinated? If yes, all good. As good as good can be

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#3019286 9-Jan-2023 19:41

Jase2985:
Oblivian: 'ere we go.

where are we going?

Nowhere, fast really. Just another rolling reboot. It's more transmissible, more evasive to immunity, not effected by some of the antivirals, and quickly taking the dominancy.

So as seen overseas essentially likely to reboots the hunt out for those with waned or no immunity (or like to share knowing all well)

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#3019381 10-Jan-2023 07:49

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You can dial up any comparisons you would like here.

A snapshot of NZ vs USA by age.
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

based on this, in the last few months the poorly vaccinated US and highly vaccinated NZ have the same mortaiity, let's see what happens moving forwards

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#3019388 10-Jan-2023 08:14

Batman:

based on this, in the last few months the poorly vaccinated US and highly vaccinated NZ have the same mortaiity, let's see what happens moving forwards

No, the poorly vaccinated US and highly vaccinated NZ have the same relative mortality, compared to each countries 'normal' level.
I believe that the USA has a higher absolute mortality rate than NZ in most age groups, owing to inequities in their healthcare system and large numbers of gun deaths in some demographics.

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#3020437 12-Jan-2023 13:15

Like Belgium, France will protect their children from COVID-19 and other airborne diseases by mandating a CO2 target of <800 ppm in schools and daycare centres.

https://twitter.com/nousaerons/status/1610191726924136454

Has any party proposed air quality improvement policy here yet?

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#3020495 12-Jan-2023 15:40

Ragnor:

Like Belgium, France will protect their children from COVID-19 and other airborne diseases by mandating a CO2 target of <800 ppm in schools and daycare centres.

https://twitter.com/nousaerons/status/1610191726924136454

Has any party proposed air quality improvement policy here yet?

800ppm is the current recommendation from the NZ Ministry of Education to Schools,

https://temahau.govt.nz/covid-19/advice-schools-and-kura/ventilation-schools/assessing-ventilation

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#3025341 22-Jan-2023 08:52

looks like China has fixed their vaccination issue

they think 80% of people have had the live vaccine in just the last few weeks

hence they don't think there will be a rebound 2nd wave

(my add: due to the mass migration of everybody in China for Chinese New Year, the final 20% will also be getting the live vaccine in the next 2 weeks)

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-says-covid-outbreak-has-infected-80-population-2023-01-21/

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#3025352 22-Jan-2023 09:25

Batman:

looks like China has fixed their vaccination issue

they think 80% of people have had the live vaccine in just the last few weeks

hence they don't think there will be a rebound 2nd wave

(my add: due to the mass migration of everybody in China for Chinese New Year, the final 20% will also be getting the live vaccine in the next 2 weeks)

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-says-covid-outbreak-has-infected-80-population-2023-01-21/

My wife and MIL are there, its everywhere, so the 80% is probably correct. But 20% of 1.4 billion leaves a lot left. They will be fine, due to natural immunity replacing the farce of vaccinations.

The potential issue is this (correct me if I.m wrong but Ive read it in various articles) Immunity if you catch one main strain protects you from that strain, but not other strains.Vaccinations protect you from Covid, all strains. Should Omicron and its variants dominate that will be fine but if there is a new discreet strain, then natural immunity wont help much

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#3025471 22-Jan-2023 13:10

wellygary:

800ppm is the current recommendation from the NZ Ministry of Education to Schools,

https://temahau.govt.nz/covid-19/advice-schools-and-kura/ventilation-schools/assessing-ventilation

If you think that recommendation has changed any behaviour in NZ then I have a bridge to sell you.

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#3025477 22-Jan-2023 13:47

tdgeek:

My wife and MIL are there, its everywhere, so the 80% is probably correct. But 20% of 1.4 billion leaves a lot left. They will be fine, due to natural immunity replacing the farce of vaccinations.

The potential issue is this (correct me if I.m wrong but Ive read it in various articles) Immunity if you catch one main strain protects you from that strain, but not other strains.Vaccinations protect you from Covid, all strains. Should Omicron and its variants dominate that will be fine but if there is a new discreet strain, then natural immunity wont help much

Spoke to my manager and team members last week (mostly from SH & BJ), who all said just about everyone they know has caught it already over the last couple months (including nearly everyone in each respective offices)

They have just announced a return to office policy (after spring festival)

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#3025572 22-Jan-2023 17:23

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tdgeek:

My wife and MIL are there, its everywhere, so the 80% is probably correct. But 20% of 1.4 billion leaves a lot left. They will be fine, due to natural immunity replacing the farce of vaccinations.

The potential issue is this (correct me if I.m wrong but Ive read it in various articles) Immunity if you catch one main strain protects you from that strain, but not other strains.Vaccinations protect you from Covid, all strains. Should Omicron and its variants dominate that will be fine but if there is a new discreet strain, then natural immunity wont help much

Spoke to my manager and team members last week (mostly from SH & BJ), who all said just about everyone they know has caught it already over the last couple months (including nearly everyone in each respective offices)

They have just announced a return to office policy (after spring festival)

that's really good news for the world, if no crazy strains come out of the population live vaccination drive, that's a win for everyone, for China, for us, for the world

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