I have always had better productivity working from home. I find an office environment can be distracting and noisey.

mattwnz:

 

About 20 people a week are dying from it and it is causing load on the hospitals, so Covid is not minor issue for those who are dying or getting really ill from it. Or those who have developed long covid. I have two family members who recently got it and where seriously ill for 2 weeks the most ill they have been. They had to go onto antivirals and still not 100% over it months later. People that make the decisions in NZ are generally younger and healthier so may not be all that affected by it if they catch it. There is at least one major rest home group that is keeping restrictions in place. People inside retirement units have a far higher chance of dying from Covid and I understand Covid is now one of, if not the leading contributor of death in NZ. But NZs economy and skilled people leaving, and not being abel to get new doctors to work in NZ IMO is a bigger factor than Covid, in the state of NZs health system. I was speaking to the head of one medical practice and they said it was a crisis and they just can't get doctors so can't take on any new patients, which people don't really experience until they need help. Most people making the decisions don't or as many are very highly paid, they may have private medical insurance. 

 

its the new normal.

covid has lowered how long people will live and thats just something we will have to live with. the ongoing effects will be interesting. the health system has taken a betting and its going to take time to sort out and adapt to the new normal. but also how people managed diseases in an ever more connected world.

but on the other hand hopefully its also pushed along the tech and we may see better treatments for a wide range of virus. 

mattwnz:

 

I have always had better productivity working from home. I find an office environment can be distracting and noisey.

 

I find the exact opposite for a side gig that I do.  I find that being in the office is far, far, more productive. There's things happening that impact what I do and things I do that impact others or can help others with because we are together in the same space. Productive interaction occur that otherwise cannot occur.

While I accept that for some people working from home works very well I don't accept that overall there are any efficiencies gained from having a lot of staff working from home.

There's a lot more to this subject and since it's not on topic I won't go any further here.

I have found working in the office is far better for your career in the long run. You get to have those chit chats around the water cooler. Last week we had the CEO visiting and I was taken aback at how many people worked from home that day. 

Besides the most efficient and effective method of conveying information is face-to-face conversation. If you have to work from home at least put your camera on in those meetings. 

tweake:

 

covid has lowered how long people will live and thats just something we will have to live with.

Thats quiet a claim. Where did you get that from? Care to back it up?

Wombat1:

 

tweake:

 

covid has lowered how long people will live and thats just something we will have to live with.

 

Thats quiet a claim. Where did you get that from? Care to back it up?

 

nope. thought it was obvious now that covid is 2nd leading cause of death. exact data or research i have absolutely no idea whatsoever. but with it overtaking flu and faster spreading, its going to knock a few years off life expectancy for sure. not even a guess on how much. how its going to effect people who get it year on year, no idea. will human bodies adapt or will they get so damaged they fail a lot earlier? that will be interesting.

tweake:

 

nope. thought it was obvious now that covid is 2nd leading cause of death. exact data or research i have absolutely no idea whatsoever. but with it overtaking flu and faster spreading, its going to knock a few years off life expectancy for sure. not even a guess on how much. how its going to effect people who get it year on year, no idea. will human bodies adapt or will they get so damaged they fail a lot earlier? that will be interesting.

 

I'm sorry but what you are saying here is just nonsense. 

Is there a chance you're using data from the US or somewhere else?  The leading causes of death in 2020 were cancer, ischaemic heart diseases and cerebrovascular diseases (with 109.9, 41.9 and 18.9 deaths per 100,000 population respectively).  Obviously this data is from before we had many Covid deaths in NZ, Covid is only the 3rd leading cause of death in the USA (who have a lot higher proportion of Covid deaths than we do).

Canuckabroad:

 

Is there a chance you're using data from the US or somewhere else?  The leading causes of death in 2020 were cancer, ischaemic heart diseases and cerebrovascular diseases (with 109.9, 41.9 and 18.9 deaths per 100,000 population respectively).  Obviously this data is from before we had many Covid deaths in NZ, Covid is only the 3rd leading cause of death in the USA (who have a lot higher proportion of Covid deaths than we do).

 

nz info, article about it a few months back (stuff hearld, don't recall which). heart no1, covid no2, flu no3. tho i wonder if things like cancer are split up into different types of cancer which would put them fairly low on the list.

Wombat1:

 

tweake:

 

covid has lowered how long people will live and thats just something we will have to live with.

 

Thats quiet a claim. Where did you get that from? Care to back it up?

 

Not sure if there is much new data, but this article from a year ago seems to back it up in the US where they didn't eliminate covid prior to the vaccine coming in.  https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/31/1120192583/life-expectancy-in-the-u-s-continues-to-drop-driven-by-covid-19

tweake:

 

nope. thought it was obvious now that covid is 2nd leading cause of death. exact data or research i have absolutely no idea whatsoever. but with it overtaking flu and faster spreading, its going to knock a few years off life expectancy for sure. not even a guess on how much. how its going to effect people who get it year on year, no idea. will human bodies adapt or will they get so damaged they fail a lot earlier? that will be interesting.

 

You sure you still not living in 2019/20? The scaremongering is long over! The world has moved on and life expectancy has only increased due to advances in medicine since, if anything Covid helped achieve that. 

Wombat1:

 

life expectancy has only increased due to advances in medicine since, if anything Covid helped achieve that. 

 

That's quite a claim. Where did you get that from? Care to back it up?

Azzura:

 

Wombat1:

 

life expectancy has only increased due to advances in medicine since, if anything Covid helped achieve that. 

 

 

That's quite a claim. Where did you get that from? Care to back it up?

 

Plenty more references to how life expectancy in Aus has increased during and after COVID. Google it.

Cool...Australia..

I see...Australia had an increase...cool.

COVID-19 has caused the largest cut to life expectancy since WWII

"The COVID-19 pandemic reduced life expectancy in 2020 by the largest amount since World War Two, according to a study published on Monday by Oxford University, with the life expectancy of American men dropping by more than two years.

Life expectancy fell by more than six months compared with 2019 in 22 of the 29 countries analysed in the study, which spanned Europe, the United States and Chile. There were reductions in life expectancy in 27 of the 29 countries overall."