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kingdragonfly

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#311377 10-Jan-2024 18:05
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The cost of eyeglasses in New Zealand is pretty frustrating.

I purchased new lenses; I had some existing frames which I reused. Granted the non-progressive single vision lens had a complex prescription, with prism adjustments and such. But there are no special coatings except anti-internal-reflection. It was NZD $500, remounted in old frames I supplied.

I looked down at a prescription laying on the desk and saw someone had spent very close to NZD $1,000 for a single pair glasses.

I wasn't thinking straight. I should have just gotten the prescription, then mail-order glasses from the US.

The price would have been sub $200 even with frames and delivered.

As you'd expect I don't buy eyeglasses everyday, but I was happy with three orders from glassesusa.com. Granted I had to guess my head width. Delivery time would have probably been one month versus two weeks.

You can screw over your local eyeglasses company by trying on frames locally, looking on the inside frame for a series of numbers. The first number between 45 and 60 should be your lens size.



Obviously you're going to missing out on the perfect-for-your-face frames, and post-adjustments.

Not helping is that most frames worldwide are manufactured by a single company, named Luxottica. They control 80% of the major brands in the NZD $45 billion global eyeglasses industry.

It would have probably been a good idea to fly to another country, get eyeglasses plus a spare, and prescription sunglasses, and return home than buy them here. At least I would have gotten some vacation time out of it.

Between dental bills and eyeglasses, I'm getting killed for medical costs recently.

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  #3180538 11-Jan-2024 12:51
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I've used Clearly 12 months ago for some new sunnies. Took the same length of time to arrive as it would have if going to Specsavers (10 days), and I decided to buy two pairs since they were so cheap ($190 for the lot, including delivery).

All you need is a current prescription which you can ask for if you've had an eye exam done locally, and then select the frames based on the size as stated in the OP. 

I'd happily use them again for future prescription eyewear needs.




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  #3180542 11-Jan-2024 13:03
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I've been to Oscar Wylee recently, three pairs for $299. Not bad. 


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  #3180572 11-Jan-2024 13:55
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The value in sourcing glasses from o/s does reduce the more complex one's needs are, though; eg, I doubt I'll risk ordering progressives again from an overseas website. Yep, even the 'budget' stores in NZ are expensive for anything but basic glasses, but it's just not worth it. I've not tried Oscar Wylee to see what they charge for progressives, so may do so next time I need a pair.

 

It does make a lot of sense, though, ordering from o/s if your script is straightforward; I did it for years (mainly Clearly, but also Select Specs) until I changed to progressives.

 

I've totally given up on getting lenses replaced in existing frames - makes sense environmentally, but it rarely works out financially. 




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  #3180578 11-Jan-2024 14:14
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My last pair during covid, I bought from Ezyglasses.co.nz, $29.95 (model "London - Green").   I just gave them my prescription and that was it.  may have been just a local person reordering from overseas, not sure, but arrived fairly quick.   and $30. score.

 

 

 

Still wearing them today.   All day, every day.   


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  #3180584 11-Jan-2024 14:21
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Warehouse $10 does me fine.

 

Suspect will need something better/finetuned down the track.

 

 





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  #3180589 11-Jan-2024 14:31
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jonathan18:

 

The value in sourcing glasses from o/s does reduce the more complex one's needs are, though; eg, I doubt I'll risk ordering progressives again from an overseas website. Yep, even the 'budget' stores in NZ are expensive for anything but basic glasses, but it's just not worth it. I've not tried Oscar Wylee to see what they charge for progressives, so may do so next time I need a pair.

 

It does make a lot of sense, though, ordering from o/s if your script is straightforward; I did it for years (mainly Clearly, but also Select Specs) until I changed to progressives.

 

I've totally given up on getting lenses replaced in existing frames - makes sense environmentally, but it rarely works out financially. 

 

 

 

 

We have found the opposite, the prescription we need works out at ~$1,500 NZ to get locally with the most budget frames and 7-8mm thick lenses in store and it's pretty much the same between all stores we have looked at. This is vs. ~$200-$250 from o/s with all the coating options and 2-4mm thick lenses and can often get both a standard and sunglasses pair for just under $400 delivered within 2-3 weeks, saves a lot of money when they are being replaced every 1-2 years due to changes in the eyes. One of the local optometrists even checked a set once to make sure they were within spec and they were impressed.


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  #3180593 11-Jan-2024 14:36
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xpd:

 

Warehouse $10 does me fine.

 

Suspect will need something better/finetuned down the track.



Are these reading glasses (far-sighted)? Or for short-sightedness? 

All the cheapo ones in random stores have seemed to be reading glasses, but nothing for the other way.


 
 
 

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  #3180595 11-Jan-2024 14:38
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I do find it interesting that, despite eyesight being such a critical sense, there seems a real resentment at paying for, or at least a real keenness to minimise the cost of, glasses! (It's probably just jealousy in that for some a pair of prescription glasses can be $30: my last purchase was over $1k for two pairs, and that's cheap compared to what many others pay...)

 

That said, there are also compromises that come with cheap glasses, eg the ones from Ezyglasses are 'un-coated so they have no scratch resistant coating or UV protection coating or anti-reflection coating - or any other coatings that are possible'. I don't see how that makes for a pair that's suitable for constant wear, both from a longevity and wearability point of view.

 

Edit: It's great to see that that store does provide for new lenses in old frames at a really affordable cost (noting the above comment re coatings): https://ezyglasses.co.nz/products/reglaze-your-own-glasses.

 

 

 

 


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  #3180601 11-Jan-2024 14:57
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like i said, ive been wearing these glasses all day every day for about 3.5 years now.   with an active 4 yo who likes to grab them and run around with them.

 

so $30 glasses from ezyglasses are great for me.  i always thought that coating stuff was mostly rubbish, i had it before, couldnt really tell the difference with/without it.  

 

$30 gamble is a pretty low investment gamble IMO.  even getting a pair as a emergency backup pair.

 

but sure, keep spending $1000, not my money, doesnt bother me :P


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  #3180606 11-Jan-2024 15:13
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when they are being replaced every 1-2 years due to changes in the eyes.

Eek! I'm just starting out with glasses. Is that common?

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  #3180607 11-Jan-2024 15:18
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reven:

 

like i said, ive been wearing these glasses all day every day for about 3.5 years now.   with an active 4 yo who likes to grab them and run around with them.

 

so $30 glasses from ezyglasses are great for me.  i always thought that coating stuff was mostly rubbish, i had it before, couldnt really tell the difference with/without it.  

 

$30 gamble is a pretty low investment gamble IMO.  even getting a pair as a emergency backup pair.

 

but sure, keep spending $1000, not my money, doesnt bother me :P

 

 

Though cheap glasses may explain why you can't find the shift key?!

 

 

 

But yeah, horses for courses... I've had shit eyesight since birth (worn glasses since 18 months old), so take it pretty seriously and won't gamble with mine...


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  #3180610 11-Jan-2024 15:21
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gzt:
when they are being replaced every 1-2 years due to changes in the eyes.

Eek! I'm just starting out with glasses. Is that common?

 

Certainly recommended to get your eyes tested every two years (which luckily is the repeat period for free tests from Specsavers via AA!); replacement is only necessary if there's been a significant enough change.

 

That said, it can be different at different stages of life, eg eyesight may change more when younger so more regular checks could be advisable (my eyesight actually improved over a number of years when I was a kid - now it's only downhill!).


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Based on genetics and/or dumb luck, some people are blessed with vision that fits neatly into standard buckets.

Think of people whose foot sizes are a perfect 9 with a normal foot arch versus someone who has a flat foot / high arch and requires a special shoe.

Consider the fact that most frames in the US are roughly 6X the price of materials and manufacturing, and over 10X the price is not unusual.

I didn't mention I get double vision when I look through standard lenses, so the lens use a "prism" to move the apparent image up/down left/right.

However the difference in prices on frame is frankly outrageous. This is from America, which frankly often has price that are often much cheaper than ours

I'd recommend anyone who travels overseas is to buy your glasses abroad (and extra spares and sunglasses). I know it's not fair on local business, but when the difference start getting over double or triple it's hard to justify.

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Just to add that Specsavers and OPSM are the same company targeting different audiences.


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  #3180615 11-Jan-2024 15:30
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netspanner:

 

Just to add that Specsavers and OPSM are the same company targeting different audiences.

 

 

I'm not sure about that... OPSM is definitely owned by Luxottica, which is as mentioned earlier the most dominant company worldwide in this space. (Edit: I see now it's called EssilorLuxottica, after a merger a few years back.)

 

That font of all knowledge, Wikipedia, says Specsavers is owned by the Perkins Family.

 

Edit: here's a table from Wikipedia that lists the brands owned by EL; AFAIK only two of those operate in NZ, but as mentioned they also own many of the brands like Oakley and Rayban:

 


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