EU cars will have black box and speeding detection

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#298702 8-Jul-2022 16:28

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/07/07/anti-speeding-tech-eu-black-box-regulation/

After ruling that motorists can no longer buy a new gasoline- or diesel-powered car after 2035, European Union regulators have passed a law that makes anti-speeding technology and a so-called black box mandatory for all new cars. The controversial features are a requirement in every car introduced after July 6, 2022, and they will become required in all new cars regardless of launch date starting in July 2024.

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#2939825 8-Jul-2022 16:41

Next step, design a card reader as part of the dash board so you can keep swiping your card to pay your fines and keep the car running.

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#2939842 8-Jul-2022 17:17

This is not much different to the over 100kph beeper in some vehicles with some additional options. From the article:

If it detects that the driver is speeding it can perform one of four actions: send out a visual or acoustic warning (like a warning message in the instrument cluster or a chime), emit a series of vibrations (likely through the steering wheel), provide haptic feedback through the accelerator pedal, or automatically slow the car down to the posted limit. Carmakers are free to choose how the system they adopt reacts.

Slowing the vehicle seems like a crash hazard that no sane manufacturer will select as an option. Other than that optional item, not much different than mandating a beeper as some markets currently require already.

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#2939843 8-Jul-2022 17:18

Or you can wear your big boy trousers and drive to actual speed limits.

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#2939849 8-Jul-2022 18:14

That feature is Nothing New, I remember my mitsubushi 1987 Turbo Lancer had that feature kick in at 110 KPH, Annoying as fook Chime, Got a auto sparky unplug it.

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#2939929 9-Jul-2022 08:44

If they're accurate and mean everyone actually drives at the limit (when safe to do so) instead of 5-10k under (or 15 for leaf drivers) because of speedo errors, then they could be a good thing

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#2939930 9-Jul-2022 08:50

great for EVs because, range!

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#2945922 24-Jul-2022 14:45

A huge step in road safety management measures and if changes to RUC charging in NZ move to distance based rates for all vehicles this would be the obvious back door for implementing a similar regime here.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content/news/mandatory-speed-limiters-on-uk-cars-from-2022?refresh=true

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#2945927 24-Jul-2022 14:56

The content of the article is about a driver warning system. Calling this a speed limiting system is sensationalist nonsense.

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#2945936 24-Jul-2022 15:07

Having a black box that detects where speed limits will be detected will not do anything to stop idiots driving below the limit, but still far too fast for the conditions.

There are plenty of 100 kph roads around here with corners that even a top-end sports car would have trouble taking at more than 50.

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#2945955 24-Jul-2022 16:17

I don't think speed is usually the cause of accidents. I do think it is a big factor in the severity of the outcome of crashes.

Driving education would be a better approach to reducing crashes. People who simply don't understand road rules, people who make bad decisions, people who are complacent. They are the problem.

Back in my day, the wait time between getting your restricted licence to getting your full licence could be reduced if you took a defensive driving course. I don't think you can shorten that wait time by any means now because you have to sit a final test to get your full licence - however, I really think it should be a standard part of the licencing system.

Story time, my cousin failed his licence test because the tester said he wasn't looking in his rear view mirror every three seconds. I think that's absolutely idiotic.

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#2945973 24-Jul-2022 17:11

Journeyman:
Story time, my cousin failed his licence test because the tester said he wasn't looking in his rear view mirror every three seconds. I think that's absolutely idiotic.

If you want a laugh, in the mid 90’s I failed my first attempt at my restricted licence in Christchurch. The reason was I was doing 50km/h in a 50 zone and was holding up traffic. I was told that, on that road, people normally travel between 60 and 70 and I should drive fast enough not to hold up traffic no matter what the limit says.

That was in the days when you had a police officer conducting the test.

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#2946072 24-Jul-2022 21:31

empacher48:
Journeyman:

Story time, my cousin failed his licence test because the tester said he wasn't looking in his rear view mirror every three seconds. I think that's absolutely idiotic.

If you want a laugh, in the mid 90’s I failed my first attempt at my restricted licence in Christchurch. The reason was I was doing 50km/h in a 50 zone and was holding up traffic. I was told that, on that road, people normally travel between 60 and 70 and I should drive fast enough not to hold up traffic no matter what the limit says.

That was in the days when you had a police officer conducting the test.

Then as now there’s always examiners looking for ways to fail people.

I bet if you'd driven at the speed the examiner suggested you'd have then given him the chance to bust you for speeding.

I had an a**ehole the first time I took my driving test. 100% in the written and then got two obscure questions in the oral. In those days there were 5 oral question which were at the choice of the examiner and you were allowed one wrong question. Sorry, fail, make another appointment, see you later.

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#2946094 25-Jul-2022 04:44

gzt: The content of the article is about a driver warning system. Calling this a speed limiting system is sensationalist nonsense.

Don’t go coming in with facts. This is a driving thread. Next you’ll be saying that there were twice as many road deaths per year in the 1990s when common sense (TM) prevailed.

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#2946101 25-Jul-2022 08:19

Journeyman:

Story time, my cousin failed his licence test because the tester said he wasn't looking in his rear view mirror every three seconds. I think that's absolutely idiotic.

My daughter failed hers 2nd time up because she took a bend too quick that made it uncomfortable for the instructer, I'm still looking through the road code to find which particular section of the act she breached! The instructor then handed her a business card for more driving lessons. Conflict of interest / self serving much?

None of this is relevant to the black boxes though.

I wonder if our privacy laws would over-rule the black box implementation?

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#2946103 25-Jul-2022 08:31

The "Black Box" portion of the system already exists now in many vehicles. It might not record all parameters as suggested in that article like sear belt use but does include 5hings like vehicle speed etc. There was a case in New Zealand a couple of years ago where this information was used in the prosecution of a driver.

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