It's a shame. Just hang onto it until the infrastructure is in place. There are others testing the hydrogen waters and it is a far better alternative to Battery EV as it provides a vastly better "refuelling" experience.

MikeB4:

 

It's a shame. Just hang onto it until the infrastructure is in place. There are others testing the hydrogen waters and it is a far better alternative to Battery EV as it provides a vastly better "refuelling" experience.

 

Sorry mate, it's done.

Honda, Hyundai, Scania, VW, Nissan, etc have all cancelled their hydrogen plans. Battery EV has proven to be the superior successor to the ICE vehicle. No one is building the infrastructure for a dwindling market that barely existed to begin with

I am not sure I would describe it as "the superior successor" it seems similar to the VHS v Beta, Blu-ray v HD DVD battle the inferior is becoming dominant.

Obraik: Aaaannnd it's discontinued

That is so funny.

I know you aren't supposed to laugh at someone's misfortune, but stupidity is different.

Hope the guy is just as successful in politics.

Ge0rge: Haha true. He could probably blow it up?

Could sell it to some forum members here, if only they were willing to put their money where their mouths are.

MikeB4:

 

It's a shame. Just hang onto it until the infrastructure is in place. 

 

Lol don't listen to the DGM's - Mr Mauger's already got a way to fill his car. 

I'm sure his plan was to use GBV's (Haskel) H2 refueller all along - but that wouldn't have created the publicity he's looking for.

And it doesn't really change the fact that H2's a marginal solution for light vehicles in NZ.
I expect that in the next 5-10 years hydrogen will be available at major ports and industrial areas across NZ - but at 350 bar, not the 700 required for his car.

Likely in the end there will be niche providers that'll compress it further and sell it to car owners, at a cost.
By then his Nexo's H2 tanks will be due their 10 year recertification, and halfway to their EOL date..

I believe we need to get away from ICE vehicles but I don't believe a sustainable solution has been found. Battery power while providing a little relief it is not a sustainable option and there are simply too many compromises and environmental risks. Hydrogen was at least a more sustainable option providing there closest use-ability and advantages to society that ICE has provided as  @Dingbatt posted a few pages back.

MikeB4:

 

I believe we need to get away from ICE vehicles but I don't believe a sustainable solution has been found. Battery power while providing a little relief it is not a sustainable option and there are simply too many compromises and environmental risks. Hydrogen was at least a more sustainable option providing there closest use-ability and advantages to society that ICE has provided as  @Dingbatt posted a few pages back.

 

Whats not sustainable? Explain please.

Most Bevs will be using LFP cells, all plentiful, all recyclable. They are the most efficient way of taking renewable power and moving a vehicle. 

Nothing you are saying makes any sense.

This thread makes me think of chickens going around in circles as they peck aimlessly at the ground. Some here just really do not like the idea of hydrogen cars for some reason. Some seem to take particular delight in any failures of such. 

I don't know if hydrogen vehicles will ever become viable. But the cackling over their shortcomings is myopic and misplaced. Technology advances through its failures. In the early days of automobiles, various means of propulsion were tried out, including electricity and even steam. We are engaged in a similar process now. Whether hydrogen makes it as a fuel for small vehicles or not, the current experiments are valuable and I applaud the man with the vision and courage to buy a hydrogen vehicle at this time. He should be celebrated, not ridiculed. There should be more like him.

Rikkitic:

 

But the cackling over their shortcomings is myopic and misplaced.

 

You are missing 30-40 years of oil funded misdirection using hydrogen as a promise never to be fullfilled.

MikeB4:

 

It's a shame. Just hang onto it until the infrastructure is in place. There are others testing the hydrogen waters and it is a far better alternative to Battery EV as it provides a vastly better "refuelling" experience.

 

I'm curious how you know what a hydrogen refueling experience is like?

Because I expect it will not be anything like a petrol refueling experience... to start with, I'd guess it would involve an attendant doing the whole thing, because it would need specialised couplings and cryogenically cold fuel and consequently be more dangerous and need a trained operator.

frankv:

 

I'm curious how you know what a hydrogen refueling experience is like?

 

Because I expect it will not be anything like a petrol refueling experience... to start with, I'd guess it would involve an attendant doing the whole thing, because it would need specialised couplings and cryogenically cold fuel and consequently be more dangerous and need a trained operator.

 

The hydrogen refueling stations I've been to (HTEC's in Vancouver) are all pay at the pump, and self-serve - easier than my old Valiant's LPG fills in NZ used to be.

Rikkitic:

 

This thread makes me think of chickens going around in circles as they peck aimlessly at the ground. Some here just really do not like the idea of hydrogen cars for some reason. Some seem to take particular delight in any failures of such. 

 

I don't know if hydrogen vehicles will ever become viable. But the cackling over their shortcomings is myopic and misplaced. Technology advances through its failures. In the early days of automobiles, various means of propulsion were tried out, including electricity and even steam. We are engaged in a similar process now. Whether hydrogen makes it as a fuel for small vehicles or not, the current experiments are valuable and I applaud the man with the vision and courage to buy a hydrogen vehicle at this time. He should be celebrated, not ridiculed. There should be more like him.

 

 

 

I do not personally care what runs them - electricity, hydrogen or atomic power - as long as they have useful range, sensible cost and practicality.

At present most of them fail on at least one of those criteria for me.