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  #1075564 27-Jun-2014 15:02
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I have only ever had 1 (old) person abuse (<- yes full on abuse) me for riding on the foot path (With no helmet) That person copped a bit of it back for being old using a foot path with a little hand cart thing.
Otherwise abuse from peds is out of the question. I have seen more abuse from cars with road cyclists.



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  #1075674 27-Jun-2014 17:15
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GregV: This is the name used world-wide, originating in San Fran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_lane_marking


San Francisco eh. Kind of explains it all really.




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  #1075693 27-Jun-2014 17:55
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If it helps make the roads safer for all users then all is good.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.




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  #1078216 1-Jul-2014 20:56
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DravidDavid:
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old3eyes: They put them down parts of Pt Chev road here in Auckland.  The cycling bunnies still ride on the sidewalk..


If I was to ride a push bike it wouldn't be on the road.


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I have no idea why the government are trying to make it safter for cyclists on the road, when they could just travel on the foot-path.  I had no trouble at all doing it as a kid on my way to school every day!

If I traveled on the road, I may not be typing this message right now.


The number of times I've nearly been bowled (and on one occasion actually bowled) by cyclists flying down the footpath at high speed, hurling abuse at pedestrians who dare to get in the way, yeah no.  Bonus points for doing that on the footpath beside a cycle lane...  Uh huh, get off the footpath.

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  #1081304 5-Jul-2014 09:06
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I'm in two minds about cyclists in the cities ... sure keeps you fit, and saves fossil fuels, exhaust fumes etc, BUT would I be allowed to turn the clock back and drive a horse and cart through Lambton Quay/Queen Street?

As for the nutters refusing to use the cycle-way on Wellington's Hutt Road ....

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  #1081325 5-Jul-2014 10:13
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I'm all for cyclists getting safer lanes, etc. But not on footpath. You don't want a bicycle coming behind you on Lambton Quay, Willis St or any other busy Wellington street with high number of pedestrians.

Also what is really annoying is that some cyclists completely disregard red lights - lost count of the number of times I was about to cross a road in the Wellington CBD when the pedestrian crossing light was green and a cyclist came down just through the red light and I had to stop before crossing the path of said idiot psychopath human being.

Every time a cyclist goes through a red light when pedestrians are crossing I feel like they shouldn't be on the road at all. 

Yes, it's generalisation, but as they say, a few spoil it for everyone.




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  #1081327 5-Jul-2014 10:24
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freitasm: I'm all for cyclists getting safer lanes, etc. But not on footpath. You don't want a bicycle coming behind you on Lambton Quay, Willis St or any other busy Wellington street with high number of pedestrians.

Also what is really annoying is that some cyclists completely disregard red lights - lost count of the number of times I was about to cross a road in the Wellington CBD when the pedestrian crossing light was green and a cyclist came down just through the red light and I had to stop before crossing the path of said idiot psychopath human being.

Every time a cyclist goes through a red light when pedestrians are crossing I feel like they shouldn't be on the road at all. 

Yes, it's generalisation, but as they say, a few spoil it for everyone.


I actually attended the Auckland Transport Board Meeting public session last month, buried in one of the reports to the Board was a short note about how traffic lights would be upgraded to detect newer bikes (detection loops etc), one board member rather abruptly and rudely declared it a waste of money because "cyclists ignore the rules no matter what" and wouldn't accept that the problem was that the technology just couldn't detect them and that they had to ignore the rules else sit at red lights for minutes waiting for a car to show up.

Personally as someone that is normally when in the city on a bus or a pedestrian, seen my share of everyone using the roads acting stupid I was just shocked at such a generalized attack at cyclists.

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  #1081328 5-Jul-2014 10:26
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I personally think a cyclist should be allowed to go through a red light in such case. But it also would mean STOP and make sure pedestrians don't have the right of way then GOING. Not just going through like a bullet.





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  #1081336 5-Jul-2014 10:48
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freitasm: I personally think a cyclist should be allowed to go through a red light in such case. But it also would mean STOP and make sure pedestrians don't have the right of way then GOING. Not just going through like a bullet.



Yeah, the implication from other Board Members (including Dr Levy - Chair of Board) was that this was exactly why they were spending money on fixing the problem, recent enforcement campaign on Red Light running found this to be a common complaint, fixing the problem + then renewed enforcement with cameras would then be "there is THEN no excuse for a cyclist to abuse red lights".

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