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  #2551696 29-Aug-2020 07:01
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At least they're advertising it. I'm not sure it will help the road toll much, I suspect it's more affected by the idiots who will ignore this, drive drunk, etc, than regular people going fast, but if it actually saves lives I support it. I hope they still use a bit of discretion, such as at the bottom of hills, but even in the auto with cruise control on you can use gears and brakes to limit your speed.

 

We're going to get cars going even further below the limit now. Most cars speedometers say they're going faster than they really are - when ours says we're doing 100kph we're actually doing about 93. According to multiple GPS units we have to do an indicated 108kph to be doing an actual 100kph.




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  #2551698 29-Aug-2020 07:34
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On a 100k journey the difference between doing the legal maximum (100Kph) and say 95Kph is only a few minutes. On the average commute a few seconds yet people rage over a few seconds or a couple of minutes, it baffles me.





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  #2551699 29-Aug-2020 07:38
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Batman:

Handle9: There's always the simple answer. Don't speed, you won't get a ticket.

You are responsible for driving the car, if you can't control the cars speed then go and get some lessons on how to drive safely.


CVT + electronic throttle = no control over speed. these dumb cars you need to look at the speedo.


manual + wire throttle = full control.


auto trans - almost full control.


I don't follow your reasoning. I have driven a number of cars with CVT transmissions and have never had any problem controlling my speed.



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  #2551701 29-Aug-2020 07:57
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The real chance of getting caught speeding is relatively low these days - you don’t really see a large number of police on the roads. I see this more as jaw-boning.

 

Most annoying are people who drive at 90/95 kph in the RH lane of multI-lane motorways and block people who want to do 100.





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  #2551702 29-Aug-2020 07:59
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It is impossible to maintain an exact speed.  I've got a few choice words for police right now. 

 

A far more practical approach would be to reduce all official speed limits by 5-10kph and reinstate the tolerance, to recognise the reality of speed control.

 

I wonder if they'll set speed cameras to 0 tolerance. I guess so. 

 

 

 

 


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  #2551703 29-Aug-2020 08:00
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eracode:

 

The real chance of getting caught speeding is relatively low these days - you don’t really see a large number of police on the roads. I see this more as jaw-boning.

 

Most annoying are people who drive at 90/95 kph in the RH lane of multI-lane motorways and block people who want to do 100.

 

 

Ha ha, well prepare to be more annoyed as people reduce their speeds further. 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #2551706 29-Aug-2020 08:04
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surfisup1000:

 

It is impossible to maintain an exact speed.  I've got a few choice words for police right now. 

 

A far more practical approach would be to reduce all official speed limits by 5-10kph and reinstate the tolerance, to recognise the reality of speed control.

 

I wonder if they'll set speed cameras to 0 tolerance. I guess so. 

 

 

They would say if you have trouble maintaining an exact speed, aim for 5 or 10 lower, then you’ll never go over the limit.

 

 





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  #2551707 29-Aug-2020 08:06
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eracode:

 

surfisup1000:

 

It is impossible to maintain an exact speed.  I've got a few choice words for police right now. 

 

A far more practical approach would be to reduce all official speed limits by 5-10kph and reinstate the tolerance, to recognise the reality of speed control.

 



 

They would say if you have trouble maintaining an exact speed, aim for 5 or 10 lower, then you’ll never go over the limit.

 

 

Yes, this will be an effective reduction in the speed limit by not acknowledging reality. 


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  #2551721 29-Aug-2020 09:03
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Great way to increase road deaths as people will now spend ludicrous amounts of time on the opposite side of the road trying to pass someone doing 95kmph, while not wanting to exceed 100kmph while passing.

Meanwhile they won’t see the oncoming traffic because they will be staring at their speedo.


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  #2551723 29-Aug-2020 09:17
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gmball: Great way to increase road deaths as people will now spend ludicrous amounts of time on the opposite side of the road trying to pass someone doing 95kmph, while not wanting to exceed 100kmph while passing.

Meanwhile they won’t see the oncoming traffic because they will be staring at their speedo.



Those people will just keep doing what they do now, keep on at 95 whenever the limit drops.

I don't notice being passed that often at 100 but if you stick to reduced limits between 30 - 80 they roll on by. There's a long stretch of the Porirua motorway with a temp limit of 70 that no one seems to observe.

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  #2551730 29-Aug-2020 09:20
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Seem to be easier to look at speedometer than to know if you are just over the drink drive.limit but I don't hear cries of there needing to be tolerance of 5% for drink drive limit.

 
 
 

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  #2551734 29-Aug-2020 09:30
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I would love to know what % of the 15% of crashes were are caused by excessive speed, were doing the 101 to 109 they are targeting.

 

Eg if speed related crashes are 50% doing 110+ and 25% doing "too fast for the conditions" (eg wet roads, doing 90 into a corner you should be doing 70) then they are targeting the cause of 3.75% of crashes. Should drivers doing 101 to 109 really be their focus?


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  #2551737 29-Aug-2020 09:35
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Delphinus:

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I would love to know what % of the 15% of crashes were are caused by excessive speed, were doing the 101 to 109 they are targeting.


Eg if speed related crashes are 50% doing 110+ and 25% doing "too fast for the conditions" (eg wet roads, doing 90 into a corner you should be doing 70) then they are targeting the cause of 3.75% of crashes. Should drivers doing 101 to 109 really be their focus?



It’s irrelevant, the maximum permissible speed on New Zealand roads 100Kph or 50Kph depending on conditions. They are simply enforcing it.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.


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  #2551738 29-Aug-2020 09:35
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I think it's time to focus on the 56% "other". It will probably take more than pc plods to come up with answers as they seem to have limited imagination in recent years.

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  #2551740 29-Aug-2020 09:47
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Bung: I think it's time to focus on the 56% "other". It will probably take more than pc plods to come up with answers as they seem to have limited imagination in recent years.


Nah, chances are the 56% ‘other’ doesn’t have the potential to generate revenue. We already know that policing speed is a revenue gathering exercise, so might as well focus on that even if it’s a smaller portion of the pie.

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