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  #2607170 19-Nov-2020 17:27
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MikeB4:

 

Wouldn't it be quicker and less labour intensive just to change down a gear or two?

 

 

My car has no gears




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  #2607177 19-Nov-2020 17:57
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Ok. I'll be that person...Why?

 

If you are into drag racing on a  Friday night (aka 'car enthusiast') then fill ya boots, as long as aren't being as ass or hurting anyone.  But for the average pundit, I don't get why this is an issue or why it is necessary to modify your car, or somehow come up with questionable techniques to trick your cars computer just to get an extra 0.3 seconds faster off the lights. It makes no sense to me - maybe I am just getting old.    





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  #2607188 19-Nov-2020 18:34
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hsvhel:

 

I'm using one of these in my ute....life changing

 

https://idrivenz.co.nz/

 

 

 

 

What does installing one of these, or similar, do to warranties?




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  #2607190 19-Nov-2020 18:52
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hsvhel:

 

You'll have a deifferent vehicle with it installed, find what setting works best for you, i mainly leave it on auto.  But do give U9 a punch and let me know how you find it.

 

 

is it a DIY install?


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  #2607193 19-Nov-2020 19:09
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MikeAqua:

 

A lot of modern vehicles have electronic accelerator sensors and supress accelerator response to improve fuel economy. 

 

"That's quite enough acceleration for you, young man" 

 

Sports mode or similar will reduce the degree of suppression.

 

I've found that revving the engine briefly a couple of times before accelerating, dramatically improves accelerator response.  Even in a vehicle set to sports mode, it makes a noticeable difference.

 

 

 

 

It's called Fly By Wire throttle control and is implemented in all modern vehicles.  Depressing the accelerator simply sends a request for more power to the EMC.

 

 

 

Sports Mode in my BMW 530i changes the shift points of the 5 Speed steptronic, it doesn't affect the engine.

 

 

 

I guess CPU response time plays a part in acceleration lag?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2607201 19-Nov-2020 19:27
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BlinkyBill:

 

hsvhel:

 

I'm using one of these in my ute....life changing

 

https://idrivenz.co.nz/

 

 

 

 

What does installing one of these, or similar, do to warranties?

 

 

Nothing, mine was factory fitted by the dealer. went with a reputable brand for that reason, sure there are others out there, un-sure if they would present a problem





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  #2607202 19-Nov-2020 19:31
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Batman:

 

hsvhel:

 

You'll have a deifferent vehicle with it installed, find what setting works best for you, i mainly leave it on auto.  But do give U9 a punch and let me know how you find it.

 

 

is it a DIY install?

 

 

100%, it goes in series between the connection to the pedal and the harness.  About 5mins to connect and then you can either hide the module or cable manage it elsewhere.  I left mine as set and forget behind the fuse access panel.  Can get to it if require for changes but have found its not needed.

 

Discalimer, i am in no way affiliated with the brand.  Just a customer





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  #2607204 19-Nov-2020 19:54
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Any way of knowing how it works?

I don't want to have the car stuck at full throttle when it malfunctions

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  #2607206 19-Nov-2020 20:02
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Batman: Any way of knowing how it works?

I don't want to have the car stuck at full throttle when it malfunctions

 

Interesting take on it.

 

Youtube, there's dyno comparisons and all sorts.

 

It would be an odd malfunction to have though, and one that could conceivably happen to the vehicle on its own, without something like this.  Both have a very low chance of that happening i would think.

 

In either case, vehicle or vehicle with something like this...there's always neutral?

 

 

 

 





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  #2607209 19-Nov-2020 20:09
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MikeAqua:

 

A lot of modern vehicles have electronic accelerator sensors and supress accelerator response to improve fuel economy. 

 

"That's quite enough acceleration for you, young man" 

 

Sports mode or similar will reduce the degree of suppression.

 

I've found that revving the engine briefly a couple of times before accelerating, dramatically improves accelerator response.  Even in a vehicle set to sports mode, it makes a noticeable difference.

 

 

That probably just spools up the turbo.  Is that with your Mitsu ute?

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2607219 19-Nov-2020 20:46
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i watched this - it says no difference than pressing the pedal further down. guess I'll pass on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs3ZXP6wjBE

 

 


  #2607226 19-Nov-2020 21:01
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They basically change the curve, so if the accelerator is depressed 10% it sends a 20% signal instead. So in that respect, yes it’s the same as pressing the pedal further. However what they also do is remove the dead spot that’s inherent in many fly by wire throttle cars but most prevalent in modern common rail turbo diesels. Hence why the OP has a good response in his Ute.

I’m planning to install one in my Skoda Yeti with the 2.0 TDi engine. It has a horrendous dead spot from idle. I’ve been caught a couple of times when turning across traffic at an intersection. Should have had plenty of time but the car just sat there for what seemed like 1-2 secs before taking off.

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  #2607230 19-Nov-2020 21:06
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Batman:

 

i watched this - it says no difference than pressing the pedal further down. guess I'll pass on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs3ZXP6wjBE

 

 

 

 

The deadspot though is removed, if in AKL, welcome to drive my ute and see the change, no power gain at all, but a pedal that does what its asked to do.

 

 





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  #2607239 19-Nov-2020 21:43
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Batman:

 

i watched this - it says no difference than pressing the pedal further down. guess I'll pass on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs3ZXP6wjBE

 

 

 

 

Yep, that's pretty well what I've found out by doing a bit of searching.

 

Comments like "It has a placebo effect" and "Its just the same as flooring your throttle".  Seems to me a more aggressive use of the throttle will have the same effect and you can use the money you would have spent on the throttle controller on something else.

 

My Drive By Wire  235 KW V6 with a 9 speed auto goes pretty damn well. About the only time I seem to catch it out is when it has dropped back into 4 cylinder mode when sometimes there may a short hesitate off a low throttle setting.

 

Someone mentioned turning off traction control. That might work on some vehicles but on others the traction control stops wheel spin and enhances traction giving better acceleration.





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  #2607240 19-Nov-2020 21:45
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BlinkyBill:

 

What does installing one of these, or similar, do to warranties?

 

 

Nothing, mine was factory fitted by the dealer. went with a reputable brand for that reason, sure there are others out there, un-sure if they would present a problem

 

 

I'm surprised you could fit one of these and not invalidate your warranty.





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