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#2814241 17-Nov-2021 08:55

rugrat:

Just saw pamphlet in my letter box on way out. No one will be able to park outside house 3pm-6pm weekdays, and 10am-2pm Saturdays.

Will send feedback, but guessing predetermined decision.

I have a shared driveway. Neighbours have more cars then they can park in their area, if goes ahead I will have constant arguments with them.

My suggestion would be to approach your neighbours and have an adult conversation with them about all this well in advance of it actually becoming an issue.

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#2814299 17-Nov-2021 09:51

to all those saying discuss parking on drive with his neighbour...

thats not how things work in the the real world. Talk is cheap.
I have a shared driveway. Ive had neighbors from a completely different house park on my drive rather than park on their own drive. Yes that happens, they dont care.
People are inconsiderate aholes with parking, just a fact. They wouldnt park in front of his garage if they were considerate .

Anyway, there isnt anything you can do. The council are basically anti car , they dont care about your onstreet parking.
It may only be certain times planned now, but that could change to be permanent
It would be a nightmare if this happened in my street .

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#2814317 17-Nov-2021 10:06

1101:

Anyway, there isnt anything you can do. The council are basically anti car , they dont care about your onstreet parking.
It may only be certain times planned now, but that could change to be permanent
It would be a nightmare if this happened in my street .

It isn't your on street parking. The road doesn't belong to you and you are not entitled to park outside of your house. If there is a better use of the land such as a bus or cycle lane then it should be used for that.

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#2814371 17-Nov-2021 10:23

1101:

to all those saying discuss parking on drive with his neighbour...

thats not how things work in the the real world. Talk is cheap.
I have a shared driveway. Ive had neighbors from a completely different house park on my drive rather than park on their own drive. Yes that happens, they dont care.
People are inconsiderate aholes with parking, just a fact. They wouldnt park in front of his garage if they were considerate .

Anyway, there isnt anything you can do. The council are basically anti car , they dont care about your onstreet parking.
It may only be certain times planned now, but that could change to be permanent
It would be a nightmare if this happened in my street .

Again, it seems tough, but you don't own the street. The only reason I wound up getting a project car is because I have somewhere to put it. I've not lived in a place that would allow me to have two cars. As mentioned above, the most sensible answer is to talk to the neighbours, if they don't listen then they will simply get towed. It isn't fair if s/he can't access their garage. I missed the diagram on the previous page but I suspect I know what it will look like. I don't think the OP has mentioned how many parks the neighbour has before it blocks the garage.

Edit. If I had someone park in my driveway I would then park behind them and leave for a walk or something.

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#2814378 17-Nov-2021 10:40

blackjack17:

It isn't your on street parking. The road doesn't belong to you and you are not entitled to park outside of your house. If there is a better use of the land such as a bus or cycle lane then it should be used for that.

In some suburbs in Auckland they are now building multi story (up to 8 levels high) apartment blocks in suburbia with ZERO parking or driveways onsite. The reality is those residents will need access to on street parking for their own cars (if they own them) or at a bare minimum for tradies/deliveries/etc. I would expect a level of pragmatism to prevail in these cases, a black and white answer of "its not your street parking" wouldn't be a good response in my view.

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#2814385 17-Nov-2021 10:56

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blackjack17:

It isn't your on street parking. The road doesn't belong to you and you are not entitled to park outside of your house. If there is a better use of the land such as a bus or cycle lane then it should be used for that.

In some suburbs in Auckland they are now building multi story (up to 8 levels high) apartment blocks in suburbia with ZERO parking or driveways onsite. The reality is those residents will need access to on street parking for their own cars (if they own them) or at a bare minimum for tradies/deliveries/etc. I would expect a level of pragmatism to prevail in these cases, a black and white answer of "its not your street parking" wouldn't be a good response in my view.

To play devil's advocate, people who move in there will know this before they move in. I've not lived in flats because of this, central Auckland, one off street park that was used by the main tenant, the rest had nowhere to park, so I didn't move in. Realistically it probably only needs a couple of loading bays to satisfy trades and deliveries.

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#2814389 17-Nov-2021 11:06

mudguard:

Again, it seems tough, but you don't own the street. The only reason I wound up getting a project car is because I have somewhere to put it. I've not lived in a place that would allow me to have two cars. As mentioned above, the most sensible answer is to talk to the neighbours, if they don't listen then they will simply get towed. It isn't fair if s/he can't access their garage. I missed the diagram on the previous page but I suspect I know what it will look like. I don't think the OP has mentioned how many parks the neighbour has before it blocks the garage.

Edit. If I had someone park in my driveway I would then park behind them and leave for a walk or something.

Agreed, we can't neuter transport improvements because people are shitty, inconsiderate neighbours.

On the flipside, if someone parked in my driveway, I'm pretty sure I could have a decent chunk of the front end of their car off with spanners and tools I have lying around in short order. Always keen to pull something new to bits.

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#2814390 17-Nov-2021 11:09

Scott3:

A quick search suggests that this is likely Lincoln Road Christchurch?

If it is Lincoln Road, then I wouldn't exactly call it residential - yes there are houses on it, but it is a main arterial route that has likely had district plan designations on it for this sort of things for many years

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#2814393 17-Nov-2021 11:12

blackjack17:

It isn't your on street parking. The road doesn't belong to you and you are not entitled to park outside your house.

Some parts of Auckland have 'resident permit parking'.

https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/parking-permits/resident-parking-permits/

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#2814394 17-Nov-2021 11:12

I'm not sure you understand the issue, OP.
Now that there's a bus lane, both you and your neighbours can sell your cars and bus everywhere. It's so super convenient. The tradies and visitors can bus to see you now, too.

.. do I really need sarcasm tags?

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#2814395 17-Nov-2021 11:13

Inphinity:

I'm not sure you understand the issue, OP.
Now that there's a bus lane, both you and your neighbours can sell your cars and bus everywhere. It's so super convenient. The tradies and visitors can bus to see you now, too.

.. do I really need sarcasm tags?

Yeah - and doing a week's shop at Pak n Save by bus is great fun.

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#2814398 17-Nov-2021 11:16

mudguard:

To play devil's advocate, people who move in there will know this before they move in. I've not lived in flats because of this, central Auckland, one off street park that was used by the main tenant, the rest had nowhere to park, so I didn't move in. Realistically it probably only needs a couple of loading bays to satisfy trades and deliveries.

Sure, but choices will become more limited over time as the suburbs targeted for dense in fill housing all start doing this. It might be OK to have found somewhere else to live previously, but when a chunk of Auckland are all doing this the options for avoiding it diminish.

Residential permits exist because councils live in the real world and have to be pragmatic, I would hope that in general sanity prevails.

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#2814649 17-Nov-2021 16:49

AT has been ideologically opposed to private transport for some time now. People are only just realising this now when it affects them.

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#2814764 17-Nov-2021 17:54

It is not allowed to park on street opposite my house 24x7 365 days which is awesome actually.
I remember times living at another place and the issue was - cars parked on street 0 cm from my driveway, sometimes partially blocking it, making it hard to drive out safely...

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#2814772 17-Nov-2021 18:10

eracode:

blackjack17:

It isn't your on street parking. The road doesn't belong to you and you are not entitled to park outside your house.

Some parts of Auckland have 'resident permit parking'.

https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/parking-permits/resident-parking-permits/

Which I very much disagree with but the people that live in that type of area tend to have expensive lawyers

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