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RunningMan
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  #3026892 25-Jan-2023 10:31
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It may be a 2018 model, but that design was first released for public sale in 2012, and obviously designed before that, so yes, it's a very old design as far as EVs go.

 

It's not that type 2 is uncommon, or will become uncommon. Type 2 is very common, is a current standand and will be for the forseeable future, however the Zoe uses it in a way that is unique. The bulk of currently available EVs can charge at up to 7kW (32a single phase) or 11kW (16a 3 phase) via type 2 - the constraints are the on board charger capacity, and available supply from the EVSE. Some of the less common Teslas will go to 17kW 3 phase, but in general, 11kW is the best you are going to see. This is quick if you are charging over night, but slow if you are waiting while driving long distance.

 

The Zoe has a totally different charging system, making use of the traction motor as part of the on board charger, saving weight and additional circuitry. It can charge at up to 43kW (64 amp 3 phase), depending on exact spec. This was it's way of rapid charging. Everyone (almost) else went DC for rapid charging as standards developed, and the network of rapid chargers are all DC. Most NZ ones are 50kW, with a few up to 300 or so and a few historical ones at 25kW. However, the older Zoes can't use the DC chargers, and rely on AC type 2. I'm not aware of any 44kW type 2 around NZ - there's certainly some 22kW (32a 3 phase), but most of the ones at shopping centres etc. are only 32a 1 phase (7kW). So in practical terms, you'll only get 7-22kW charging an older Zoe at public EVSEs in NZ.

 

It wasn't until 2020 that Renault released a Zoe with CCS (DC) charging, bringing it in to line with other EVs.




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  #3026899 25-Jan-2023 10:39
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@runningman - many thanks for your clarification.





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  #3026913 25-Jan-2023 10:54
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To add, commercial public chargers are generally DC for a couple of reasons:

 

1) If you're using a public charger, it's probably on a long trip away from home and you want to charge fast (yes, I'm making sweeping generalisations about people's charging habits!)

 

2) It's operated for commercial gain, so the quicker you can charge, the quicker they can get the next paying customer in

 

So the older Zoes are a bit if an anomally. Renault banked on AC rapid charging being a thing in the future, but everyone else went DC. The result is less public charging locations, and the available ones will be slower. Having said that, type 2 is incredibly common, but it's really used as a slower destination type charge rather than rapid enroute charge. You'll still be able to do long distance drives, but it will just need a bit more planning than if you could DC charge.

 

There's a bit of background here but don't try and read it when tired! It all gets confusing with the renaming of motor models half way through production...




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  #3026914 25-Jan-2023 10:57
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This should help you ID which model motor your Zoe is

 


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