How to find car ownership details?

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Ultimate Geek
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#593254 10-Mar-2012 16:32

Oh well.

You can still get ownership history. Then cross check with phone book and electoral roll

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#593416 11-Mar-2012 01:41

TheUngeek: Oh well.

You can still get ownership history. Then cross check with phone book and electoral roll

No, you can't. The NZTA will only give out information on individuals where there is a public benefit to doing so (using the Official Information Act criteria), or with special authorisation from the Ministry of Transport. And an individual can opt out so the information can only be obtained with the Ministry's authorisation too. Companies and organisations are fair game.

Also, applying causes the NZTA to publish your information as part of a register of people who accessed the register.

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#593453 11-Mar-2012 10:20

Since when has ownership history of your car been withheld? News to me

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#593471 11-Mar-2012 11:31

Law changed 1 May 2011. There was a thread on it on GZ from memory, and it was in the media a bit. There was a bit of a public backlash from some interested parties (i.e. Carjam) but it went through anyway.

Owners can also now 'opt out' of their details getting released upon request. You can do that on-line:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/information-who.html

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

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#593475 11-Mar-2012 11:46

scuwp: Law changed 1 May 2011. There was a thread on it on GZ from memory, and it was in the media a bit. There was a bit of a public backlash from some interested parties (i.e. Carjam) but it went through anyway.

Owners can also now 'opt out' of their details getting released upon request. You can do that on-line:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/information-who.html

The majority of MVR details I've seen where the ownership details are withheld belong to well know and active crims. Being able to opt-out only benefits the paranoid and the criminal.

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#593479 11-Mar-2012 11:54

This is the same reaction we see when people say government shouldn't be allowed into private lives, or to look on your Internet activities, "you don't have anything to hide if you are not doing anything wrong".

Privacy is everyone's right.

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#593482 11-Mar-2012 12:09

freitasm: This is the same reaction we see when people say government shouldn't be allowed into private lives, or to look on your Internet activities, "you don't have anything to hide if you are not doing anything wrong".

Privacy is everyone's right.

Hear Hear!

I have "opted out" for disclosure of all our vehicle details, and I know many others who have done the same.

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#593485 11-Mar-2012 12:17

freitasm: This is the same reaction we see when people say government shouldn't be allowed into private lives, or to look on your Internet activities, "you don't have anything to hide if you are not doing anything wrong".

Privacy is everyone's right.

Freitasm you have been highlighting the strict privacy rights in terms of access to the MVR database throughout the discussion, shouldn't that make the ability/need to hide your details from those who are vetted and with purpose not necessary?

I am still of the opinion that the system is mainly used by those with less than desirable intent. Thankfully the Police still have full access.

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#593492 11-Mar-2012 12:31

scuwp: Law changed 1 May 2011. There was a thread on it on GZ from memory, and it was in the media a bit. There was a bit of a public backlash from some interested parties (i.e. Carjam) but it went through anyway.

Owners can also now 'opt out' of their details getting released upon request. You can do that on-line:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/information-who.html

I am talking about ownership history. Ie a list of names previously registered to that vehicle. Not names and address

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#593497 11-Mar-2012 12:38

kingjj:
freitasm: This is the same reaction we see when people say government shouldn't be allowed into private lives, or to look on your Internet activities, "you don't have anything to hide if you are not doing anything wrong".

Privacy is everyone's right.

Freitasm you have been highlighting the strict privacy rights in terms of access to the MVR database throughout the discussion, shouldn't that make the ability/need to hide your details from those who are vetted and with purpose not necessary?

I am still of the opinion that the system is mainly used by those with less than desirable intent. Thankfully the Police still have full access.

Sorry, but I must have not enough coffee in my system today - I didn't understand your statements.

Are you saying vehicle ownership records should be available to the public for scrutiny, or are you saying having those available on request only is a good thing?

In any case, the information is available. One just needs to request the records, with a reason to do so. Others (such as police, car services, WOF agents) have access anyway.

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#594040 12-Mar-2012 12:12

yes i believe car ownership history names are now withheld you can only get number of private owners and names of companies/ dealerships that have owned the car

i guess i have to try my luck with the proper channel unless i can find someone to look up the information for me

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#594162 12-Mar-2012 14:32

TheUngeek:
scuwp: Law changed 1 May 2011. There was a thread on it on GZ from memory, and it was in the media a bit. There was a bit of a public backlash from some interested parties (i.e. Carjam) but it went through anyway.

Owners can also now 'opt out' of their details getting released upon request. You can do that on-line:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/information-who.html

I am talking about ownership history. Ie a list of names previously registered to that vehicle. Not names and address

Even names are not provided. Organisational entities only, private individuals you have to have a reason.

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#594670 13-Mar-2012 17:05

it cost $15 to apply to the nzta to get address whether they approve you access to the information or not. Not really worth it considering that is 10% of the amount involved and i still don't know whether or not they will give me the information. It feels like I can't really do anything. Why is it so easy for someone to steal someones money.

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#848407 2-Jul-2013 20:58

I realise this thread over a year old, but we find ourselves in the exact same situation as the original poster.

We took someone to the disputes tribunal and won. He should've paid us 2 weeks ago. We have been advised against applying for an order for examination as this could go on forever (they could be asked to pay us $10/week). A distress warrant would be preferable and faster, but for this we need to identify what the debtor owns so we can instruct the bailiffs to confiscate it. Naturally a vehicle is the easiest thing to target, but for this we need a number plate. Unless we become stalkers and sit outside his house waiting for him to drive in or out, we can't see how we can possibly find out this sort of information. The guy has just retired after selling the business to his son, so for all we know he might not leave the house very often, and he keeps his car in the garage... (we've driven past a couple of times to see if we got lucky).

We'd be very grateful if the original poster wouldn't mind sharing the outcome of his case and whether they got anywhere with their searches.

And to anyone out there reading this, if you're considering taking someone to court over a debt, if you think you have even the remotest chance of winning, take it from us, we'd strongly advise finding out if they own a vehicle before you take them to court. Failing that, follow them discretely after the hearing, watch them walk to their car and take a note of the number plate. It'll hopefully save you a lot of time and headaches afterwards.

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#848519 3-Jul-2013 08:39

We have been advised against applying for an order for examination as this could go on forever (they could be asked to pay us $10/week). A distress warrant would be preferable and faster, but for this we need to identify what the debtor owns so we can instruct the bailiffs to confiscate it.

Unless we become stalkers and sit outside his house waiting for him to drive in or out, we can't see how we can possibly find out this sort of information.

You do ask for an order of examination, no it doesn't take ages, and so what if they pay $10 a week, better than nothing.

Or go sit there and get the rego......
But the order is better - that way he can't do the "it all belongs to my wife" thing.

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