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#3222533 24-Apr-2024 21:12

Used to filling multiple containers of 98 for the rally car. Most was 8x 20 litre.

Before BP stopped their smart fuel thing, it was multiple $40 transactions working my way down the line of containers then "fill and redeem" the final 50 litres. Depending on how much I'd accumulated prior to the trip, the savings on that final fill was impressive. Aside from the $500-ish it took to get there.

Have had to let a car pulling in behind know that "I'll be a while" a few times when I'm filling pre-trip. It's less of a problem when I have the trailer on the back as I'm usually taking up both pumps of a bay.

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#3222541 24-Apr-2024 21:38

rugrat: If look at picture I posted in a post above, PacknSave Moorhouse was around $2.83. Would need a voucher of approx 26 cents to match.

For that one it's not clear if that price is before or after voucher. Different vouchers and deals all around the country I guess. My two local p&s are both 10c voucher with no minimum grocery spend. If it's not a shopping day in a hurry I pick one up in the carpark. The OP location? Did I miss it? That particular difference isn't worth anyone spending up and messing with containers in the back of the car.

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#3222542 24-Apr-2024 21:49

rugrat:

If look at picture I posted in a post above, PacknSave Moorhouse was around $2.83. Would need a voucher of approx 26 cents to match.

Most shopping vouchers I’ve seen from there are 6 cents and don’t think can use more then one at a time.

PAK’nSAVE petrol price no where near competitive.

Is at the one near costco, otherwise no, its about the same as other places IME. Worst part is having to go into a pak n save to get the voucher to get the price.

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#3222543 24-Apr-2024 22:02

Parking problems?

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#3222550 24-Apr-2024 22:57

gzt: Parking problems?

More like being trapped after filling up, with cars lined up behind me, and someone taking maybe 15 to 20 minutes in front filling containers and they hadn’t left space for anyone to get past.

Someone mentioned that’s what gap is for between pumps, which is how I got out. But need cars stopped in right places on other side of pumps.

When I was getting to far side, car did start moving but then realised I was there so didn’t side swipe me.

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#3222574 24-Apr-2024 23:33

rugrat:
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$2.57 for 91 is everyday price in Christchurch.

Really?

Price has been volatile. One time I recall a 20 or 30 cent difference between fills at costco. Picking fill day is a lottery anywhere at the moment.

In my local area there are stations with prices so high no-one will sensibly go there without a loyalty card or voucher etc.

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#3222595 25-Apr-2024 09:04

My biggest level of disquiet in the OP is having up to 200kg of volatile liquid in the boot of a car. Hopefully the driver didn’t have to go too far and wasn’t going to be driving too fast. That much weight that far back in a vehicle, particularly in liquid form would affect the stability of the car. And that’s without considering that all that petrol is sitting in the rear crumple zone. It would make for a spectacular crash.

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#3222610 25-Apr-2024 09:14

all that, and the fumes

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#3222707 25-Apr-2024 11:15

Dingbatt:

My biggest level of disquiet in the OP is having up to 200kg of volatile liquid in the boot of a car. Hopefully the driver didn’t have to go too far and wasn’t going to be driving too fast. That much weight that far back in a vehicle, particularly in liquid form would affect the stability of the car. And that’s without considering that all that petrol is sitting in the rear crumple zone. It would make for a spectacular crash.

Density of petrol is ~0.739 kg/L. So 200L ~= 150kg. Assuming the rest of the car was fairly empty, this would be well within the payload capability & rear axle rating of most car's (my car is rated for 150kg of downforce on the towbar which is a lot further back than the boot as an example).

Given it was in many smaller (likely very close to full) containers, it is unlikely that there was much of a sloshing effect.

I have been in a rear end crash bad enough to write off the car, and the amount of intrusion into the boot wouldn't have been enough to cause a plastic tote tank any concern.

Another commenter is onto it about fumes though. Transporting petrol in the passenger compartment sucks for that reason. if a little petrol is spilt onto the exterior of one of the tanks, or a tank isn't property sealed, the whole interior can stink in short order.

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#3222717 25-Apr-2024 11:35

Whew! That was a lot of work. I'll just relax and light up a cigarette on the trip home.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#3222772 25-Apr-2024 12:14

Scott3:

Density of petrol is ~0.739 kg/L. So 200L ~= 150kg. Assuming the rest of the car was fairly empty, this would be well within the payload capability & rear axle rating of most car's (my car is rated for 150kg of downforce on the towbar which is a lot further back than the boot as an example).

Yeah, I knew someone would have to pick the fly poop out of the pepper (GZ is like that). I used the max allowable volume (250l) and rounded the density up to 0.8.

And how does your car handle with 150kg mass (not downforce) on the towbar?

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#3222940 25-Apr-2024 19:17

Dingbatt:

Scott3:

Density of petrol is ~0.739 kg/L. So 200L ~= 150kg. Assuming the rest of the car was fairly empty, this would be well within the payload capability & rear axle rating of most car's (my car is rated for 150kg of downforce on the towbar which is a lot further back than the boot as an example).

Yeah, I knew someone would have to pick the fly poop out of the pepper (GZ is like that). I used the max allowable volume (250l) and rounded the density up to 0.8.

And how does your car handle with 150kg mass (not downforce) on the towbar?

Ute doesn't even notice it in my case. The spares, tyres and car trailer on the hitch are far more noticable.

I'm not sure why it's of any concern about how the car would handle. People frequently load way more weight into car boots without it causing any issues. In most cases they aren't going to be doing any spirited driving while loaded.

If someone did rear end the car and managed to split a container, the chances of it going up are not as good as the movies would suggest.

At the end of the day, it is allowable to transport up to 250 litres of fuel in approved containers and while it's not particularly nice to have it in the cabin, I'm not sure there's any rules that say you can't.

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#3222972 26-Apr-2024 06:59

I’m still scratching my head as to why everyone was literally bumper to bumper.

even with a parallel parking situation people are not that close…..there would have been at least 30-60cm either end of cars….plenty of room for a 5-6 point wiggle out.

which self serve in Christchurch was this at….

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#3222974 26-Apr-2024 07:39

NPD Lincoln Road. Was on the side a shop use to be, so have hard wall on left side of car, and pumps on right side. Not much space to go left and right so I didn’t want to risk it. A neighbour had their car sticking at in front of my garage once and I misjudged the distance and hit their car, so would rather not do tricky backward manoeuvres.

It is a small one, 4 pumps with cars each side so total 8 pumping at once. And 2 payment terminals.

Price went up 12 cents next day, and itoday is $2.71.6. Cheapest is 2.64.9 today, so knew had to go Wednesday to get it at that price and Thursday would be too late.

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#3222987 26-Apr-2024 08:47

rugrat:

NPD Lincoln Road. Was on the side a shop use to be, so have hard wall on left side of car, and pumps on right side. Not much space to go left and right so I didn’t want to risk it. A neighbour had their car sticking at in front of my garage once and I misjudged the distance and hit their car, so would rather not do tricky backward manoeuvres.

It is a small one, 4 pumps with cars each side so total 8 pumping at once. And 2 payment terminals.

Price went up 12 cents next day, and itoday is $2.71.6. Cheapest is 2.64.9 today, so knew had to go Wednesday to get it at that price and Thursday would be too late.

reverse cameras (decent ones) have solved that.
I know the Lincoln road site….its old school. It’s a right royal PIA to find a safe break in traffic to leave it.

(it’s been there since the ark…so traffic increased.

will be interesting if it survives the long time planned but not yet started road widening.

(the hoon hay end, the works start either later this year or next)…

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