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  #586829 25-Feb-2012 22:48
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Camden: 

To digress slightly...  Insane states he has 225 45 17 wheels with sports suspension.How does it ride? My Volvo has 215 45 17 wheels and std suspension and  rides like a dray ! Handles well though.Not all Volvo owners are old fossills with a lab in the back! 


It's a firm ride to put it politely, and not ideal for poor road surfaces taking some getting used to coming from a 1999 1.8L Nissan Primera with 185/70/14's. (9L/100km around town on that car)

I notice the bumps particularly on roads where large truks/buses have caused corrugations in the road surface from breaking heavily, and the drive from Christchurch to Auckland when I first bought it left my lower back feeling a bit uncomfortable by the time I reached Hamilton.

I wouldn't dream of putting thinner tires on it though as the traction control already kicks in from time to time dealing with the 320nm of torque, and I really enjoy the way the car holds on the road as if on rails.








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  #586892 26-Feb-2012 11:07
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How could you find out CO2 emissions of older cars?

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  #587003 26-Feb-2012 17:41
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insane:
Camden: 

To digress slightly...  Insane states he has 225 45 17 wheels with sports suspension.How does it ride? My Volvo has 215 45 17 wheels and std suspension and  rides like a dray ! Handles well though.Not all Volvo owners are old fossills with a lab in the back! 


It's a firm ride to put it politely, and not ideal for poor road surfaces taking some getting used to coming from a 1999 1.8L Nissan Primera with 185/70/14's. (9L/100km around town on that car)

I notice the bumps particularly on roads where large truks/buses have caused corrugations in the road surface from breaking heavily, and the drive from Christchurch to Auckland when I first bought it left my lower back feeling a bit uncomfortable by the time I reached Hamilton.

I wouldn't dream of putting thinner tires on it though as the traction control already kicks in from time to time dealing with the 320nm of torque, and I really enjoy the way the car holds on the road as if on rails.

I have basically the same vehicle as Insane but 205/55/16 tyres and standard suspension.  Here in the Far North, most of the road surfaces are poor (compared to Auckland's super smooth motorways) and many of them are downright atrocious.  We also drive on unsealed roads every so often, and some of them are badly corrugated.

On all of those surfaces, the ride is by far the best of any car we have owned.  On smooth tarseal, it also feels like it's running on rails.  My previous sporty type vehicle was a Toyota Supra 3L with sports suspension.  It was a fun toy in the city, but on roads like we have here, it was appalling -- we felt the brunt of every bump.

So it's a case of horses for courses, and it really pays to do your homework before buying another car.







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  #587302 27-Feb-2012 12:26
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One thing missing from all the diesel figures is the road usage charges, what do they work out at?


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#587510 27-Feb-2012 19:22
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I purchased the V50 from a Wellington dealer who gave me a trade in deal on the old car.Bought the car over the internet site,drove the old car up and drove the new car home.Looking at the photos on the internet the car looked really rather cool with the fitted alloy wheels.Of course in the excitement of the deal one did not stop and think about how the ride would feel.I did get it checked out bodily and mechanically with an independant inspection.After a late ferry sailing I drove it down to ChCh after midnight and there was no traffic on the road so was able to find out what it handled like.Rather well actually,compared to anything I had previously owned.After driving the car for a year,I have now got used to the ride and like the handling which is great.It has the same size motor as the previous car but without the turbo and four wheel drive stuff so get between 35 and 30 percent better oconomy which is good.
Yes,next time I change cars,in 3 to 4 years all going well,I will certainly do more reserch on the ride-handling situation.I based my coments of the handling on my old car that had 205 16 55 tyres and long travel suspension that gave a "magic carpet ride" that just floated over everything. One thing bad about the wheel and tyre combo fitted to the V50 is that they fill up the wheel arches completely and makes it near impossible to fit chains unless you jack up the car and remove the front wheels.Not fun in the snow and rain up Arther's pass ! 

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  #587553 27-Feb-2012 20:32
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Lurch: One thing missing from all the diesel figures is the road usage charges, what do they work out at?



For a 3 ton sticker I believe it is about  $47.20 per 1000k's
so  $4.72 per 100k's

+ more for registration especially if its a ute!

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  #587586 27-Feb-2012 21:29
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stevenz: 2008 Triumph Street Triple - Roughly 9L/100Km - Most uneconomical bike, ever!  

But don't ya love it....  
My Tiger does about 20km/litre from memory... or less depending on the noise.
 

 
 
 

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  #587607 27-Feb-2012 22:01
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VY Commodore S 3.8 manual

10.5 to 11 around town
8.5 to 9 open road, though have had it below 8 with careful driving.

I don't think it's too bad for an old tech pushrod engine.




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  #587735 28-Feb-2012 10:30
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Shoes2468:
Lurch: One thing missing from all the diesel figures is the road usage charges, what do they work out at?



For a 3 ton sticker I believe it is about  $47.20 per 1000k's
so  $4.72 per 100k's

+ more for registration especially if its a ute!

The last lot of RUCs I bought were about $44 per 1000km as it says here (vehicle type 1, 1 Tonne):

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/factsheets/38/road-user-charges-1-6-tonne-vehicles.html#table

Rego is $417 vs. about $300 for a petrol-engined car of similar size, so not really too much extra.





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  #588169 29-Feb-2012 09:18
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grant_k:
Shoes2468:
Lurch: One thing missing from all the diesel figures is the road usage charges, what do they work out at?



For a 3 ton sticker I believe it is about  $47.20 per 1000k's
so  $4.72 per 100k's

+ more for registration especially if its a ute!

The last lot of RUCs I bought were about $44 per 1000km as it says here (vehicle type 1, 1 Tonne):

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/factsheets/38/road-user-charges-1-6-tonne-vehicles.html#table

Rego is $417 vs. about $300 for a petrol-engined car of similar size, so not really too much extra.


Sorry I thought we were talking about utes, but diesel cars are cheaper RUC, rego than utes.

Utes normally run a 3 ton sticker  $46.51 per 1000 + licensing fee ($3.48-$9.78)
and a year registration for a ute is $569.67 

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  #590393 5-Mar-2012 08:32
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Honda Logo mixed urban/motorway 6.25L/100 km

We have just brought a Mazda 6 2.5 which is replacing a 1999 Odyssey. Not sure what the figures were for the Odyssey but not good. Still on first tank in the 6 so no figures yet.

Looked long and hard at diesel to replace the Odyssey but thanks to the lack of support from government it is not any better then petrol. You have to take into account, diesel, RUC more expensive licensing, more expensive servicing/repairs and they are more expensive then the petrol equivalent to start with. For a ~ 20k car seemed to be around 1-2k more.
I find it disappointing that oil burners are not being encouraged in NZ.







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  #590504 5-Mar-2012 11:09
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mudguard: How could you find out CO2 emissions of older cars?


EMISSION.DAT
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# From Vehicle Fleet Emissions Control Stategy
# Ministry of Transport 1998
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# Basic Emission Rate (X) , g/km
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#    Central Urban           Suburban                Rural                   Motorway
#    cold LosEF losCD LosAB  cold LosEF losCD LosAB  cold LosEF losCD LosAB  cold LosEF losCD LosAB
#– Medium Size Petrol Cars, Fuel Injection and Engine Management, No Catalyst,
CO   45.0  28.0  20.0  12.0  30.0  22.0  16.0  10.0  20.0  12.0   8.0   6.0  20.0  12.0   8.0   6.0





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99 s15 Silvia turbo

City around 10l/100km
Highway 8-9l/100km
Track 12-13l/km


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99 s15 Silvia turbo

City around 10l/100km
Highway 8-9l/100km
Track 12-13l/km


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  #592793 9-Mar-2012 15:04
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Toyota corona 89 2L station wagon

between 7.2 and 8.3 L /100km depending if I am doing city or open road driving.

 

I have had this car for just over 12 years and I have had to spend almost nothing on it




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