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#2871161 19-Feb-2022 08:30

Do you physically have to have taken possession of the vehicle before you can apply for the rebate? Or is an invoice and rego enough? I assume you won't get a rego until you have paid Tesla for the car.
Looking at some of the pending recipients posts it would be interesting to know if they had been able get their rebate processed, because its always nice to have money in your bank account rather than the govt's.

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#2871163 19-Feb-2022 08:34

Dingbatt: Do you physically have to have taken possession of the vehicle before you can apply for the rebate? Or is an invoice and rego enough? I assume you won't get a rego until you have paid Tesla for the car.
Looking at some of the pending recipients posts it would be interesting to know if they had been able get their rebate processed, because its always nice to have money in your bank account rather than the govt's.

You just need the Rego and the final invoice to claim the rebate. We were able to claim before we took ownership of the car. Only by a couple of days though

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#2871607 20-Feb-2022 11:58

Just thought I'd feed back. Had my Model 3 SR+ since September, put 8,000Km on it and am happy as a clam. One of the best purchases ever made. The other car we have (that now hardly gets used) is a Delica D5. I use TeslaFi to gather all my data (referral code ;-) https://www.teslafi.com/signup.php?referred=oliversCode) and that tells me that would I have driven the Delica all the kms instead of the Model 3 it would have cost me about an extra $2000 in petrol. Probably more now that prices have increased.

The car is always a joy to drive and I generally do not drive cars to have fun. This one is different. I'm never going back. Now i wish we had more choice...vans, utes, Y's,....

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#2871674 20-Feb-2022 16:02

Hi folks, please bear with me as I'm a noob.

I'm looking to get a Model 3. How much has installation cost for a home charger?

Also, curious to know if I used my standard home plug, how long does it take to charge from flat to 100%

KDee

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#2871676 20-Feb-2022 16:08

heavenlywild: Hi folks, please bear with me as I'm a noob.

I'm looking to get a Model 3. How much has installation cost for a home charger?

Also, curious to know if I used my standard home plug, how long does it take to charge from flat to 100%

On a standard 10A home power point, you'll add approximately 15-17km per hour of charge. So 0-100% would take ages.

The real question is how often will you need to charge from empty? Most people drive their daily commute - lets say 40km - and then charge when they get home in which case it will only take 2-3 hours to charge back to 100%.

In terms of cost to install a wall charger, all in cost (including purchasing the wall charger) seems to put it anywhere from $1,500 to $2,500 depending on complexity, install location etc.

I initially thought I needed the wall charger, however thinking it through I would very rarely drive any more than 100km on any given day. If I decide to do a roadtrip, then $1,500 to $2,500 buys a lot of Supercharging or ChargeNet electricity.

Another option - which I decided to go with - was swap out a 10A power point for a 15A. Most houses will have good enough wiring and circuit breakers to make this a simple outlet change, but consult an electrician first.

Using a 15A socket will give me approximately 23-25km per hour of charge which I plan to use during Contact Energy's 3 free hours of power between 9PM-Midnight every day. This will let me charge the car for free for 99% of my use case, further increasing savings on petrol costs.

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#2871679 20-Feb-2022 16:15

Thanks KDee! Very informative. Good idea re upgrading to a 15A socket.

KDee

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#2871680 20-Feb-2022 16:17

heavenlywild: Thanks KDee! Very informative. Good idea re upgrading to a 15A socket.

Yeah should be good. $120+GST from the Sparky I used, quick and easy job for most houses from what I gather.

Seemed the best option for me, but may not be for everyone. How many KM per day do you drive on average?

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#2871681 20-Feb-2022 16:23

@heavenlywild https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=162&topicid=293309&page_no=4#2861652 That whole thread may interest you.

Charge time table https://www.tesla.com/en_NZ/support/home-charging-installation/faq#charge-time but be aware charging at 10 amps from a standard power point is discouraged as unless brand new they can't always sustain that current without overheating. 8 amps may be better, in which case the 15 km/h becomes closer to 12 km/h. Total charge time will depend on battery capacity and temperature.

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#2871704 20-Feb-2022 18:21

RunningMan:
@heavenlywild https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=162&topicid=293309&page_no=4#2861652 That whole thread may interest you.

Charge time table https://www.tesla.com/en_NZ/support/home-charging-installation/faq#charge-time but be aware charging at 10 amps from a standard power point is discouraged as unless brand new they can't always sustain that current without overheating. 8 amps may be better, in which case the 15 km/h becomes closer to 12 km/h. Total charge time will depend on battery capacity and temperature.

Weird advice for NZ.

A lot of devices suck 2400w. Maybe not soo much now, but preheatpumps.

You don't see this advise from places selling cheap bar heaters like the warehouse

Obraik

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#2871717 20-Feb-2022 19:24

The car will draw the full 10A throughout its charge. It has temperature monitoring in the wall plug and it will either slow itself down or error if the plug gets too hot.

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heavenlywild

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#2871725 20-Feb-2022 20:15

Sounds like for safety might be better to get the Tesla charger.

I drive not many ks a day but when I do it can be up to 80km.

Obraik

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#2871726 20-Feb-2022 20:19

That was the included charger that the car comes with and plug into a typical wall socket. For the amount of kms you're doing that is all you'd need

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RunningMan

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#2871729 20-Feb-2022 20:38

jjnz1: Weird advice for NZ.

It's Worksafe's advice. https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/dmsdocument/5169-electric-vehicle-charging-safety-guidelines-2nd-edition

[snip]

3.5 Inlet supply plugs for IC-CPDs
To be suitable for use in New Zealand, the inlet supply cord of an IC-CPD must

be fitted with one of the following:

A plug compliant with AS/NZS 3112 rated at 10 A, with an IC-CPD which either:

restricts the maximum current to 8 A, or

restricts the maximum current to 10 A and uses temperature sensing on the pins of the plug to limit the temperature of the pins to safe levels specified by the manufacturer of the plug.

If the EVSE you're using has temp sensing on the plug you can go to 10 amps, but the reason for the temp monitoring is because it may melt. Other 2400 W loads probably wouldn't have a 100% duty cycle for 24-48 hours like you conceviebly would charging a vehicle, so there is some recovery time as well. A brand new high quality outlet may be OK for 10 A continuous, but a 40 year old one may not.

@heavenlywild check to see if Tesla supply a wallbox with the vehicle, they have done in the past, not sure if this is still the case. If so, for the price of the sparky, it's a good idea. Faster and safer. However, plenty of people manage just fine charging at a slower rate, and you may well be fine. You'll get a feel for it pretty quicky once you start drving an EV.

EDIT: Apologies for formatting, can't get it quite right.

Obraik

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#2871731 20-Feb-2022 20:53

They no longer supply the wallbox (called the Wall Connector by Tesla). You do get the UMC that you can plug into wall sockets though. It comes with connectors for 10A and 15A sockets but you can buy an optional 16A caravan plug connector for it from Tesla as well. For home charging, I wouldn't bother with the latter and rather just get a 15A socket installed at home.

The only time to go with the Wall Connector is if you need to be able to permanently charge the car outside, you daily travel a few hundred KMs or you have solar and you want to quickly get as much solar generation as possible into the car.

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RobDickinson

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#2871825 21-Feb-2022 09:47

heavenlywild: Hi folks, please bear with me as I'm a noob.

I'm looking to get a Model 3. How much has installation cost for a home charger?

Also, curious to know if I used my standard home plug, how long does it take to charge from flat to 100%

Just FYI I've done 30,000km in bit over 2 years only using a home plug socket and the included UMC/mobile charger. Mine also only charges at 8 amps ( new ones do 10).

I get ~120km overnight and this has been fine (you should get 150km or so), and should be unless you do more per day, most days.

The Gen 3 wall charger will cost $920ish and $1k or so up to fit. I have my gen 2 in a box unused...

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