I think we are going to need a bigger digger.

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#2681457 27-Mar-2021 16:32

They could take a leaf out of the Oregon State Highway Division’s book - and get rid of it completely and clear the canal by simply blowing it up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/13/oregon-whale-explosion-anniversary/

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#2681517 27-Mar-2021 17:31

They could probably dig a new section of canal and bypass the Ever Given faster than they can free her, if they can free her. After being renamed Ever Stuck she'd make an interesting tourist attraction.

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#2681518 27-Mar-2021 17:36

SaltyNZ:

Unlikely. These ships are built to rigorous maritime engineering standards.

So you don't think the front will fall off this one then ??? :-)

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#2681520 27-Mar-2021 17:38

Has Elon Musk sent a submarine yet?

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#2681574 27-Mar-2021 18:53

alexx:

Has Elon Musk sent a submarine yet?

He's just posted this (seriously true) so I don't expect great ideas from him right now - it's now the weekend, and weed is legal where he lives.

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#2681810 27-Mar-2021 23:09

wellygary:

SaltyNZ:

Unlikely. These ships are built to rigorous maritime engineering standards.

So you don't think the front will fall off this one then ??? :-)

Those Maritime engineering standards are great for a vessel used in water, but not really intended for the case where a ship mounts a canal wall.

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#2681811 27-Mar-2021 23:15

Any reason they are not using heavy lift choppers to take a few containers off the top? Slow as but they seem to have the time.

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#2681817 27-Mar-2021 23:56

gzt: Any reason they are not using heavy lift choppers to take a few containers off the top? Slow as but they seem to have the time.

Would require some of the most capable heavy lift helicopters in the world.

Mil Mi-26 tops out at 56tonne lifting

Sikorsky CH-53 Super Stallion lifts 33T.

Containers generally top out around 30 - 36T depending on variant (of course some a full of bean bags).

Would be extremely expensive, but so is the cost of the closure.

Seems like having a couple of helicopters starting offloading would be prudent. Likely turn around would be fairly quick as there is lots of adjacent space to put the containers.

Two containers at say 4 containers per hour each, times 24 horus a day, means 192 containers a day offloaded. If they could get all 40 foot containers, this would be cira 2% of the ships cargo each 24 hours.

Seems worthwhile given it doesn't clash with other efforts like dredging, digging, and pushing with tugs.

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#2681825 28-Mar-2021 04:57

They've got a good shot at freeing the ship with today's high tide.

Hend Fathy Hussein, the spokeswoman for the Suez Canal Economic Zone, wrote in a Facebook post that the stern is now free with no damage.

The president of Shoei Kisen – the ship's owner – said "There is no problem with its rudders and propellers... Once it refloats, it should be able to operate”

With Full Moon tomorrow and a couple of even bigger tugs arriving - if not today - it's even more likely they'll get her free after the tide turns Sunday or Monday.

Crew on the first ship in the convoy have now said they also came close to grounding because of the wind.
There have been 25 groundings in the canal in the past 10 years, all minor, but with the size/scale of this one I'm betting there'll be a review of the weather conditions these extra large ships are allowed to transit in..

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#2681826 28-Mar-2021 06:30

MadEngineer:

I reckon they could dislodge it using something like this:

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#2681835 28-Mar-2021 07:24

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/27/africa/suez-canal-ship-refloat-attempt-intl/index.html

long article well written

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#2681850 28-Mar-2021 08:34

Batman:

long article well written

New York Times has an interesting article - a tale about the hundred and first wonder of the world, written for a pre-industrial age audience.

An armada of tugboats, their engines churning with the combined power of tens of thousands of horses, has been pushing and pulling at the Ever Given for days.

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#2681853 28-Mar-2021 08:42

Batman:
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/27/africa/suez-canal-ship-refloat-attempt-intl/index.html

long article well written

“ A team of expert salvors from Dutch firm SMIT Salvage and Japan's Nippon Salvage -- who have worked on several high-profile operations in the past -- have been appointed to help the SCA re-float the ship,”

Wait... No Quarantine?

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#2681857 28-Mar-2021 09:09

ghettomaster:
Batman:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/27/africa/suez-canal-ship-refloat-attempt-intl/index.html

long article well written

“ A team of expert salvors from Dutch firm SMIT Salvage and Japan's Nippon Salvage -- who have worked on several high-profile operations in the past -- have been appointed to help the SCA re-float the ship,”

Wait... No Quarantine?

It's not Australasia mate

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#2681861 28-Mar-2021 09:14

Fred99:

New York Times has an interesting article - a tale about the hundred and first wonder of the world, written for a pre-industrial age audience.

An armada of tugboats, their engines churning with the combined power of tens of thousands of horses, has been pushing and pulling at the Ever Given for days.

I think combining land tow is more effective. why just tow from the water.

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